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A lot of people making my original argument for me here. You’re welcome. 😉

Thanks…I appreciate this quite a bit. I had an opinion and I threw it into the void….but as we all know….the void givith and the void disagrees and doesn’t like to be disagreed with. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Again I thank you for your…idk….pitty? I’m not sure what response you are after here as it seems to not be related to the OP? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Oh I'm told regularly that I'm not funny at all. No harm no foul.

I agree with you and those designers 100%.

Now you're threatening to report me? Thank you for your magnanimous largess in not doing so.

Thank you for your interpretation of the situation.

I agree with everything you have said since the first post. I know what a sandbox is. That is not in dispute. What I'm discussing...solely from my point of view is that there really isn't that much of a difference between soup and stew. Both have their merits and both come down to expectations...

Why does it always seem like you are looking for a fight? I'm having a discussion and you are trying to tell me how.

This is what i mean about the myth. The party needs the DM and the DM...sadly....needs the party. Everyone takes these discussions so seriously and I'm just trying to insert a little levity.

I'm not trying to get at anything. There is no "gotcha" at the end of this rainbow. I'm just stating my point as far as the language people use is concerned.

I'm really not trying to be "that guy". But this helps my point...in so far as its the point as it exists in my tiny tiny brain. When i say that a sandbox is a myth (and its tongue in cheek, I'm not mocking anyone) what i mean is.....there always needs to be DM prep to some degree. And there...

Fair point.

Doesn't that mean that different people define (i hate the definitions game) what is and isn't a sandbox differently?

True or False: In sandbox play the party shows up and does whatever they want and the Dm has to adjust to that?

Sandbox is a word people use to describe the lack of linearity (if that’s even a word). I’m saying that there is always some degree of linear play. And if there is always some linear play….therenis no need to differentiate one style of play from another. This is just how my mind works. I’m...

The sandbox posits that the players have unbridled freedom. I posit that in any game that requires a DM…players do not have this freedom. Now people will hem and haw about shades of this or that and degrees of that or this. What it all comes down to (for me) is this….a D&D game (this being...

It seems like people are arguing over what a sandbox even is.

Labels cause arguments. That was the point of my original “sandboxes are a myth” statement.

If every person playing every game came up with a label for every style of play in action….we’d be buried under semantic distinctions. At some point all of the distinctions become meaningless. To me at least. How I play is personal to me and I can describe it without assigning labels. People...