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I had already given up on this thread, and I just wanted to write this note to respond. I find your post to be somewhat dishonest. You are jumping at the sentence “They gave away their IP” and then go on to lecture me on the fact that in most countries, the BCC has been adopted and that game...

I think that WotC does NOT want people to be able to choose between two kinds of DnD - Pathfinder and 4E, no. For me personally, you can choose whatever you like. I am not even sure if I would like you to prefer 4E the way I do, be through with 3.x the way I am or resent the OGL as a business...

If only the world was black and white like that. But, as we all know, there are many more very relevant reasons why people play DnD. One, there are people who spent a lot of money on 3.x and are unwilling to pay more on 4E, because they know they have the full system support (adventures and...

Oh, if "they" knew that it would cause trouble for later editions WotC, the company that payed them, would create but did it anyway to be able to profit from it at the time when they would not be working for "them" anymore, it is unethical. Because they are harming the company. Now, I am not...

I am not sure, but aren't you the one who said that WotC is "people" and the "people" have changed at WotC, so WotC is not an entity (or something like that, I might not remember correctly)? Well, if you work for a company in a managing position, you have to act according to the needs and...

Of course the OGL was a fair liscense and it is completely WotC fault for underestimating the effect it would have in a situation when they want to publish a new edition and have to compete with the old edition and the 3rd party companies that grew into competitors. And of course they thought it...

I do not think this is true. One of the sections in the GSL that makes it awfully painful for publishers to use it is section 10. WotC has to right to terminate the liscense and end all publications of 4E content by 3rd party publishers with just a notice. It is very hard to plan a business...

Interesting name. I almost missed your reply. I was not referring to ENWorld only. I read a lot of threads that complained that the price for the DDI subscription is too high because of the use people get out of it. They complained about the price because they did not think it is worth paying...

If I thought that would really work, then more power to it. I just don't think this works. The main reason being that we cannot determine success in this industry correctly. That is the reasson nobody except WotC knows how successful their product is. Same is true for Paizo. But if you are...

First let me say that I am enjoying this conversation very much. I understand your point. But I think there is one aspect that you might be overlooking. Now this is with hindsight, but lets just say Paizo would have gone with 4E at first. And then, when the deition war storm broke loose, they...

I understand your point. But the question I am asking is whether the OGL was absolutely neccessary to let 3rd party publishers offer material that would not have been created. To give you an example: I played the Freeport adventures. Now it may be that there was some sort of piratey stuff in...

There is a difference between what I think helps my game as a gamer and the strategical business decision somebody has to make as a manager of a company. I think I made myself very clear that as a gamer I use, loot and scavenge every bit of material I bought and think I could use to improve my...

Why should WotC care about Green Ronin or Monte Cook after he stopped working for WotC? "The game" is not a holy grail. I find the notion of "We are all friends here" amusing. Where is the support of Green Ronin for 4E? It is a business decision that needs to be made. "We are all one big...

I do not know what you are trying to say here besides stating the obvious. The people at WotC have to make the business decisions. At the time they work there. And their decisions influence the decisions other people working at WotC have to make at some later point in time. I know they wanted...

There is more to the CB than advancing your character. You get the full character ruleset, with items, powers and new additions to the game without having to buy the rule books. The subscription offers more than that as well. You get the magazines. And even though the content is nothing compared...

I do not expect them to. Being able to pay for food and health insurance is more important than "the game". I would hope the two go hand in hand most of the time, though. I know a lot of people who think the rules of the new version of DnD are progressive. They most certainly were the result of...

In my opinion, putting the game ahead of the company was a mistake for WotC. Cooperating with other companies and allowing them to use what you have created is one thing. Giving them a chance to compete with you in the long run, is another. I would say that, for a company, the game is neither...

You are correct. They decided to do the Pathfinder RPG after 4E was announced. They began design on the Pathfinder RPG in 2007 before the final version of the 4E GSL was released (WotC went back and forth on that final version a couple of times). However, they saw that there would not be another...

Oh, I agree completely. I understand the legal nature of the OGL. What I am saying is, that they should have thought about the effect of the OGL when they created it (1999?) and should have asked the question: What will happen if we release a new version of the game? Will that enable other...

Your post included a lot of things in a context I had not thought about before. And I mostly agree with you. However, I think that Paizo would have gone with Pathfinder or some OGL-version of the game regardless of a new OGL for 4E. When they announced Pathfinder, they said that they had been...