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What strikes me as funny is the fact that, in its conception, the Death Knight looks like it was meant to be the undead evil fallen paladin. 9d10 hit points, AC 0 with light armor, Strength 18(00), fights with a sword, and has a lot of spells and spell-like abilities at his beck and call that...

[silly joking] brutish: the new games will feature monsters specifically as brutes, so that's covered. high lethality: from some of those playtests...oh baby yeah. Check. shades of grey fading to black: points of light setting, check. amoral: no alignments affecting the game, check...

Original post: in Thread 4E: Manufactured Excitement Reason: Haven't read the thread, no idea if you already warned him off, but this post needs reporting for broadside insulting 4E enthusiasts upon reading immediately...sorry if you already dealt with him. Assigned Moderators: (mods who...

Nope, not really, but thanks for asking. ;)

So basically you're setting yourself up as the foremost expert and authority on what others are supposed to think about 3E/4E art in D&D, hmm? You really think it'll change anything if you point to every picture posted here, claiming "NOT ANIME" or "NOT VALID" or "COULD BE IN A COMIC BOOK"? Just...

And then there's people who actually think this is a discussion with multiple shades of grey, all across the fanbase. :lol:

Oh man, you had to point that out, didn't you? Stop bashing my spark of optimism into the ground, you! :(

I really hope those "easter eggs" are not those potential heavily stylized "3" that could be interpreted into the symbol on the death knight's breastplate and into the glow from his right eye...I really would hate it if the hidden snark against 3E started showing up in the 4E artwork, too. :(...

And I thought the example the mods made of Razz was enough to stop some to ruin the whole 4E forum for the rest of us who like to discuss 4E with a slightly more critical mindset. :\

Well, from where I stand, Caldwell, Easley and Elmore had their own distinctive styles, too. But there's no accounting for taste. :)

Is this the place to vote for Nodwick one-liners in the new Core Rulebooks? ;) :lol:

Huh, if I'd go with some of those, Tiffany would be anime, too. Big eyes? Check. Aliens? Check. Talking furries? Check. Complex storylines with silly inserts? Check. Only missing a SD character screaming "kawaiiiiii" or "segoiiii" now and then. :lol:

Oh come on...it's not Weapon of the Gods...it's not even really Exalted. And it's not Diablo II or WoW either, is it? :lol:

Whoever coinced the phrase "learning from history" simply never understood how humanity works. :lol:

Uhm...I can't :uhoh: Got too many female gamers around my tables that would chop my head off if I claimed stuff like that. :o ;) But you mentioned something just now that also came up in this thread already...the Iconics. I think we can all agree that the iconic characters are meant to be...

's funny...reading this reminds me of reading the Corporate Security Handbook for the Shadowrun game back in the days...especially the Matrix banter accompanying every article. :lol: Somehow I think it's got something to do with the focus you place on the game. ;)

I apologize for the lack of manners, and edited the post to remedy it. Thanks for the reminder, won't happen again.

Half naked? :uhoh: You mean 95% naked, right? :lol: You know, if we're going to extend this from potrayals of males and females in FRPGs to what the average (i.e. non-gamer) person finds attractive, this thread will become useless for discussing fantasy artwork. Likely, if we narrow the focus...

Dunno...I have to admit in my search I came across more gratuitious "scantily-cladness" with females than males in WotC D&D illustrations...and with a greater balance of "reasonably clad" males and females in some 3rd party publishers...but basically I don't really see all the hullabaloo about...

Yeah, and a human is just a hairless ape with too much brains for its own good. It might shock you that something like an equine humanoid is viewed as eye candy for women..or rather, for SOME women...by same women, even. *shrug* But lets see if we can find something for you specifically on the...