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My group and I still haven't placed that preorder I will urge them to get the monies!

really? link?

BUT BUT BUT wizards can't break the game overcome obstacles by imaginative broken ways of using their spells!

mechanics support the fluff? Really, now?...

For sure. You want to overcomplicate rules to get the same mind numbing effect? By all accounts go nuts.

Oh ok... Skill challenges in the social sense I suspect provide little of that, but I could see myself modifying other types of skill challenges to provide tactical variety. Taking the "navigating through a forest" skill challenge, you could easily add the three options you mentioned as...

Well, I was thinking about the lines of the aspect taking the shape of a Humongous Dwarf, but it's more about the concept of being more "racist". Like an aspect of your race

O RLY? Are you serious? You are being deliberately obtuse now and I refuse to acknowledge you further

the challenge is in that you can actually lose skill challenges if you use the inadequate skills. Try intimidating a King and see where that takes you

Exactly... As a supplement paragorn and epic destiny something along the lines of: Fighter -> Hammer of Moradin -> Aspect of Moradin Sounds like a very exciting path, but not something made for the core rulebooks

there is in actuality very little debate "back and forth" for 4th edition. the GREAT MAJORITY of negative posts that I've seen are misconceptions and baseless hopes along the lines of "4th doesn't provide rules for roleplaying pet dolphins! 4th edition hinders roleplaying!"

OMG PEOPLE!!! I keep reading this discourse over and over again! Solution: Skill Challenge with moderate DC with int based checks... Are you a skilled brewster? +5 to the roll Do you have your tools with you? +2 to the roll No need to roll for each contestant, just apply a pertinent DC

I guess you can reverse engineer H1 pretty easily with the rules given in the DMG (best DMG ever imho)

WE can finally rape the gnomes

olovely

I got your smiley combo and it rocked!

Necromancer WILL be seeing my money soon. I have been following Clark's Campaign post and it sounds AWESOME

So for 2 pops of 7 bucks payments we will get 2xPHB DMG and MM Everything included, how nice is that? I am ever so excited

I believe the DMG offers many useful tips in using the new skill challenges in terms of ad libing stuff while still not being a big jerk and saying "you guys can't sneak cause a thunder out of nothing blows your cover" It provides a framework for improvisation which is awesome I . IDK the...

So I said we played 4th edition this last Sunday and we had a blast. Including me. I stopped playing 3.5 and RPG's altogether because of the immense ammount of prep time involved... A little clarification may be due. I am a very strong proponent of RAW, and only houserule things that are...