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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    Oh, shut up. You are not a victim, and I am not responsible for your behavior.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    I would have an easier time believing that if he were actually sticking to discussion of the spells in question, but he has obstinately ignored the points I have made about them and my efforts to redirect the conversion to them. Instead, he has leapt at every opportunity to spiral into this...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    Clearly I made an error (see, it's not so hard to say), but at least you used it to dodge the point. And you continue to argue, incorrectly, a semantic point instead of facing the failures in your reasoning. You have now abandoned all pretense of being a bastion of maturity, I see. I...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    Haha, and that "makes sense" to you? See, this is why you have to compare the mechanics and understand what kind of narrative each suggests, or you wind up saying things like that. As schnee points out, this is you making another arbitrary rationalization, but let's run with it. Tell me, what is...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    They are relevant when you have said, "Being a force attack, it can impact armor and still do damage. It has no need to zip around to some sort of opening and hit there like you suggest." They are spells that also deal force damage, and yet they do not automatically strike in the way that magic...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    No, you didn't mention them, which is exactly my point. You have completely failed to address the mechanical differences between them and magic missile, as you are continuing to do with this evasion. Get off this high horse. He's thrown a shoe. This: is arbitrary. You have set a limit on the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    No, I didn't think it was clever. Do note that I spared you the gory details until after you implied, quite maturely, that your interpretation of the in-narrative functioning of the spell was not an interpretation at all and stated that you were only, quite maturely, explaining the spell as it...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Blow it up! What class need to be completely re-worked in 5e?

    The Raptors. Lowry and DeRozan are great players, but they aren't going to get over the hump. Lowry is past the age where he is going to keep getting better, and his injury history says that he can't keep playing as many minutes as he has been. Trading for Ibaka was a high-risk, low-reward move...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    I would call that a fair summary, and I get that people want a clear narrative of the action. I just don't understand the difficulty with changing one's narrative to match the mechanics.
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    D&D 5E (2014) The Math of Cantrips with Saves

    A copy-and-paste from my musings on save types in my guide to wild-magic sorcerers. Disclaimer: there's a lot of generalizing here, and no accounting for DM tendencies. I would address something more to your situation, but I'm at work at the moment. (Shh, don't tell.)
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    All right. Eldritch blast does force damage. Eldritch blast requires attack rolls. Disintegrate does force damage. Disintegrate can be evaded. You have made a capricious and arbitrary rationalization. Yet it is mechanically different from eldritch blast and disintegrate, and you offer no...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    This is you enunciating a "capricious and arbitrary" set of rules to rationalize the spell's behavior while allowing it to function mechanically as you say it should.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    But that doesn't, to use your terminology, make sense. AC is a composite of many factors, including physical armor, magical armor, evasiveness, and cover. In order to always impact, magic missile must be able to avoid all of that--arc around cover, track a creature trying to dodge, and strike it...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    Okay, and what about magic missile? Should it apply equally to both martials and casters? Under your house rule to allow mirror image to redirect magic missile, do you also allow AC to deflect it?
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    So mirror image is too powerful, and therefore it should be buffed?
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    There is only one test given in the PHB and the basic rules to determine what is an attack. Magic missile does not pass that test. It is clear. It is unambiguous. That magic missile does not require a saving throw is not evidence that it is an attack.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    No, because the spell description does not say that it is an attack and it does not use the mechanics for an attack.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    Mirror image does not affect magic missile, because magic missile is not an attack. This is a complete explanation consistent with what is written in the book. What more needs to be said?
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why Green Flame Blade is Over Rated- And You Are Doing it Wrong.

    I found it pretty useful when my cleric/wizard was fighting a bodak he couldn't look directly at.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Magic Missile vs. Mirror Image

    So you don't care about what the rules say and don't care about online clarifications. Why do you keep returning to this thread again? ;)
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