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Which is why the Pounce entry is wrong. Pounce turns 1 attack on a charge into a full attack on a charge, not a full attack plus 1 attack. You're already getting extra attacks using Pounce due to going from single attack to full attack, adding an extra one on top of that is blatantly abusing...

There's never enough scroll use in the games in which I play. Everybody has wands of utility spells, no save attack spells, and items that just do spell effects themselves. I hate when my D&D turns into Harry Potter with all the wands being waved about. :eek: Maybe the next game I run will...

you have to look at the section for charging as well. it says you get 1 attack, even if you have multiple attacks, and the pounce entries for those creatures with pounce modify charging by saying they can full attack when they charge. since charging is a fullround action, where you move then...

except they aren't all the same copy/paste, since there are some with and some without rake. 'full attack +1 more attack' has plenty of examples, none of which are consistent with what Pounce says.

bludgeoning damage?

most of the pseudo-magic maneuvers are 1 die higher than the base for a regular spell would be, last one round (if not, less), mostly single target, and never get any better. Except the ones that add initiator level to damage, which are always swift action boosts that don't actually do anything...

Just because they wrote it, it doesn't make them right. They haven't gotten around to everything in an errata, but the fact that there even needs to be errata takes away from 'it's there, so it must be right'. The same book says something in one place, and something else in 25 other places, so...

the primary and only source, indeed.

I see what they did there. The Pounce entry doesn't match any of the entries in the descriptions of the monsters with the Pounce ability. wherever they got the wording for that Pounce entry in the SRD, it is wrong.

how so? pounce says when you charge, make a full attack instead of a single attack.

fixed.

An image just popped in my head of one of my kittens dragging around a battered plush octopus everywhere, growling whenever you try to take it away. :lol:

It's kind of weird how D&D creatures are all covered in fly paper. :hmm: Looks like, by the rules, even if a grappler kills their target, they can't just drop them. Unless they use them as a weapon, then they can drop a weapon as a free action. :confused: I see they modified the 'All About...

..because we needs heals plz. :angel: and shield other, so we can kill you the old fashioned way, by taking massive burst damage and having more hit points than you. :p j/k the gods only tell npcs to tend the masses, because they aren't special enough for the good assignments.

hmm, my SRD appears to be outdated. last date modified 12/1/05 our last DM has been really abusing us with grapple, incorrectly. lol our opponents have always been impossible to escape when they grapple you, (without magic, pretty much) but then drop you and full attack you the next round.

A Lion has Improved Grab with the bite only, a tiger has it with bite and claws. The Row of enemies I mentioned was 3 enemies in a line perpendicular to the druid's line of movement, with the same square, the one in front of the middle enemy, being the closest legal square to end a charge...

Situation: My g/f's druid is Wildshaped into a tiger. Then she charged, utilizing Pounce to do 5 attacks. Claw, Claw, Bite Rake, Rake. First claw hits, does damage, then starts a grapple as a free action due to Improved Grab, and succeeds, target is grappled, she does a rake attack, and hits...

hmm, weird, 'cuz I've never read any of the 3.0 books.

Tenser's Floating Golf Cart?

Unless it's a warlock. ;) Actually, using a scroll that's 1 level higher than they can cast is pretty much 'fails on a 1'. That's pretty reliable to me, unless they have 20 and try to use them all. :confused: