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In this case, killing the terminal patient and ending her pain *Are not seperate acts*. Treating the single act as two simply baffles me. "I still just don't buy that. Two good intentioned people can agree to commit an evil act together. Being in agreement doesn't necessarily mean that someone...

See, to me that's just as true in what i mean by black and white. you still have difficult decisions: do I sacrifice myself to save the village/child/whatever? But I do indeed see your point. That's just good story telling.

From the 3.5 SRD: "Good characters and creatures protect innocent life. Evil characters and creatures debase or destroy innocent life, whether for fun or profit. “Good” implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal...

To quote myself on another 'evil' thread, "We have a fundamental disconnect here. Some posters believe that killing is inherently evil. Some do not. The D&D rules do indeed state that killing is evil, but they also state that a paladin loses his status at the first evil act...so no paladins get...

Everyone has their moments. But yes, that particular definition shook me up, a bit.

Hey Jeff? If you would email me at dogedellaombros@yahoo.com, I have a question for ya.

We have a fundamental disconnect here. Some posters believe that killing is inherently evil. Some do not. The D&D rules do indeed state that killing is evil, but they also state that a paladin loses his status at the first evil act...so no paladins get past their first battle. In addition...

You have forcibly introduced the head of the nail to a concept i like to call, "Wham! This is a hammer."

You don't have a poll... But when playing D&D I prefer black and white. Evil is Evil, Good is Good, and most people know which is which. The Paladin crusades for the Right, and if the Gods say (via Detect Evil) that someone is smite-worthy, then you damn well smite them. I play other systems...

not to mention the plight of the city goblin. *But*...Eberron is not an absolute/objective alignment setting.:) There have been a lot of good responses. Thanks, everybody.

I'm sorry. I must have been unclear. I do not believe that the large company in question is evil. Not good, but not evil. I do not believe that circumstances of various sorts that force a person to do things against their willis evil, because if that were the case, the whole world is evil by its...

Iron Sheep, the manner and clarity of your responses is in fact exactly what I had in mind for this thread. To me, an intelligent debate is more about opening everyone's mind up to alternate views than it is convincing anyone in particular of anything in particular. Thus my caveat...i don't want...

i'm with you up to the marrash. Composite monsters are not only a standard of real world myth...but I believe the marrash specifically *is* from real world myth. And animal men are extremely popular with a large subsection of gamer society, IME...as well as having a great deal of precedent in...

"Sounds like a great life, huh? I think just about anyone in modern society would count this as abuse, and consider her husband a generally evil guy. " Modern people, yes. Me, yes. My feudal pseudo-medieval paladin? Maybe not.

In a great many historical cultures, slavery was only practiced on criminals or prisoners of war, as an alternative to execution or lifetime imprisonment. Slavery in this case is more analagous to a life sentence of hard labor. But those involved are still bought and sold, making it slavery...

Oppresion:n 1: the act of subjugating by cruelty; "the tyrant's oppression of the people" [syn: subjugation] 2: the state of being kept down by unjust use of force or authority: "after years of oppression they finally revolted" WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University op·pres·sion The act...

We seem to have gotten past certain fundamental miscommunications, and that can only be considered beneficial to our long term purposes. When, as a DM, you are playing a CE character, how do you ensure that they are in fact CE, if you don't follow the descriptions of CE given in the rules? If...

There is a difference between a concept of individual freedom and a *modern* concept of freedom. The Romans had a highly developed concept of personal freedom that did not match modern notions thereof. As shown by my above quotes, the English of 1215 understood personal freedom, as did the...

"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." The men who wrote these lines, and instituted a Republic here in the America's...

Under a constitutional monarchy equality under the law *is* a guaranteed civil right, often. Feudalism just means a layered form of government wherein each layer owes fealty to the layer above, and protection to the layer below. Take a look at the Magna Carta, which did in fact give civil rights...