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With all the discussions around the new Warlock changes, one thing that keeps coming up is the variance in how many Short Rests groups take. For whatever reason, some groups have more opportunity to Rest. Since this has a direct effect on Pact Magic, I thought it be interesting to see where...

How about this idea: Keep Pact Magic the same, but remove recharge on Short Rest, and add: Pact Meditation: A warlock can spend one minute meditating to refocus their internal energies. After doing so, they regain one Pact Magic spell slot. This can be done an number of times equal to the...

That's very interesting! It never ceases to amaze me how players can look at a set of mechanics and react in the opposite way. Personally, 6 over the course of the day would feel better, because if I use one, I still have five left (or four, or three). I'd be much more likely to use one a...

i know people are asking for a very stream-lined system, but that’s taking it a little far… :)

To be honest, I'm not sure I see the difference. But I appreciate your posts attempting to clarify it! I suspect we're both at a communication impasse on this...damn this internet thing :).

I can’t comment on this directly (as I think I pretty much proved I’m not qualified to a few posts ago…heh). But I wanted to say the posts like this is why I think all the discussions during this play test are useful. There are all sorts of permutations running all the way from one end to the...

And this why I’ll go back to commenting on other peoples designs :). Thanks!

And again, much smarter people than me prevail! Thanks for laying it out so clearly!

Fair enough. I wasn’t sure, since they’d still be limited to the same number of spells over all. I figured I’d ask, since I’d assume someone would know why it was a bad idea :) I’m absolutely ok with the Channel Divinity recharge route. Just was wondering if this would accomplish the same...

Ok, so here is an out there suggestion (and I can already hear the screaming…heh): If I understand correctly, the game expects most parties to get 2 short rests between long rests. This means a warlock can use their entire allotment of Pact Magic three times between long rests in an ideal...

I’m pretty sure I’ve never claimed short rests shouldn’t exist. I’ve only suggested that the reason people think Warlocks don’t get enough spells is that the availability of Short Rests vary considerably table to table and adventure to adventure. Being told the problem is all on our end for...

I agree! But this goes against all the times you’ve told me my DM is doing it wrong every time I said we can’t always take the short rests we want!

Ok. Yes. The DM is a jerk if they constantly use their (limitless) power to screw over the players. We agree on that. However, if the player’s abuse the knowledge that the DM isn’t going to TPK them every time they rest, it sucks the life (and the shared fantasy) out of the story. It’s back...

I totally agree. But there seems to an expectation that instead of managing their resources, they should be allowed to rest anytime they want. Obviously this was a bit of hyperbole on my part, but it’s starting to get tiresome being constantly told we’re doing it wrong by respecting the...

And then we're back to the five minute work day. "Oh, you blew 14 spell slots that fight? Guess I have to let you take a long rest now or the next fight will unfairly kill you." There are simply times when it's not possible (story-wise) to take a rest. Maybe some groups are allowed to stop...

Pact Meditation? Power Focus? I Can’t Believe It’s Not A Short Rest? :)

Sorry, I’m going to bow out for a bit. I feel like I’m monopolizing the thread trying to defend our adventure and story style, and that’s not the point of this thread. My apologies for hogging the spotlight.

Of course it’s relevant. If the DM says it’s too risky to rest it is. If the DM says, “sure you can rest, but you’ll probably lose a hostage”, we’re not going to rest. I mean, I don’t get your point. The DM sets the stage, and if it’s a fast paced series of high action encounters (or a race...

Yep, but I guess my point is our quests do tend to chain fights. Monsters tend not to wait in their rooms for us to knock, or there is time-sensitive parts to out quests. It’s just the way they end up. We also have times with no combat, or day long explorations with only one big fight. But...

Sorry, it wasn’t meant to be snark. It’s very easy to squeeze in 2-3 combats and only have a small amount of game time pass. If you stick by the 6-second round rule. So the whole ‘20 minutes since breakfast’ was actually a direct quote from my group. We may be the odd group, in that when we...