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  1. MrGrenadine

    Actually, our opinion does matter.

    See Plane Sailing's post #44 for a reason why you may be wrong.
  2. MrGrenadine

    When did WotC D&D "Jump the Shark"?

    There can't possibly be any question as to whether there are folks who won't play 4e, so, just to make sure I understand you, the sticking point as far as you're concerned is whether or not there's a "vast" quantity of people who won't play 4e? So we can agree on a split, but not a "vast" one...
  3. MrGrenadine

    Too Complicated A Buy-In?

    It may work for you, but there are plenty of folks who think it wasn't a quality product, and therefore not a easy introduction to the game. Plus, there were so many inconsistencies when it was first released, (which may've been fixed by now), that it confused some issues. Not the best...
  4. MrGrenadine

    Too Complicated A Buy-In?

    Just a quick look at the forums here on ENWorld shows me that this isn't so. And my own experience, of course. But I know I'm not the only one who thinks the game in its current state is cluttered and disorganized. Not unplayable. Not unfun. Just not organized, logical, clear. I chalk it...
  5. MrGrenadine

    Too Complicated A Buy-In?

    You quoted me before saying this, but just to be clear, I don't think there are too many options. I think that the options should be clearly and logically organized to make it easy for a new player to jump right in. And right now, they're not.
  6. MrGrenadine

    Too Complicated A Buy-In?

    All true. But as an interested new player, looking at a whole shelf of books is daunting, and picking up the PHB (assuming there's one on the shelf) is like shooting in the dark. And yes, I'm sure at the very least the staff at the store could help, but what could the downside be of having a...
  7. MrGrenadine

    Too Complicated A Buy-In?

    I completely disagree, and I'm not a doomsayer. I've been playing D&D since the 70's, and I currently play in a fun weekly 4e game. But its pretty clear to me that if someone who was interested in trying the game went to the local book store or hobby shop and looked through the D&D 4e books on...
  8. MrGrenadine

    Actually, our opinion does matter.

    Well, I agree, if you define "outliers" in this case as the richest, or the most vocal. But I fail to see how reaching out to the most informed would be a bad idea. In other words, if the larger population are casual gamers that occasionally play D&D, and the outliers are people that have...
  9. MrGrenadine

    I'm With D&D

    Sure, because what I call "rubbish", another may call "perfection", and more power to him or her. Play what you like and all. As for me, I'd take the good ideas from the new "rubbishy" edition, and leave the rest.
  10. MrGrenadine

    Actually, our opinion does matter.

    I agree, because you would be scaling up a small, well-informed, dedicated, enthusiastic segment of a larger population that doesn't necessarily share those traits. However, why wouldn't a company want to listen closely to the feedback from a small, well-informed, dedicated, enthusiastic...
  11. MrGrenadine

    Actually, our opinion does matter.

    In other words, the ENWorld poster is a more informed end-user, and as such, a more valuable source of feedback.
  12. MrGrenadine

    When did WotC D&D "Jump the Shark"?

    I don't mean to pick, Hussar, but I'd like to make a couple comments on your post: I would say Paizo has done more outreach in the past decade, myself, but who knows? Here's an honest question, though: Whats the feedback loop for Encounters and GW, because reaching out to customers doesn't...
  13. MrGrenadine

    Tired of hearing people hate on longer battle times in strategic RPG's

    Um, yes, and for the third time in the last two pages...I'm not talking about all games. Allow me to reiterate my point: You compared 1e and 4e, and stated that the power system in 4e makes it richer tactically. My point is that characters in 1e can do whatever characters can do in 4e, so the...
  14. MrGrenadine

    Tired of hearing people hate on longer battle times in strategic RPG's

    But thats a good point isn't it? Your contention was that having specific powers that do specific things makes the game more tactical. However, if my character from an early edition game can do everything that your character can do with specific powers can do, (just by deciding to), and the...
  15. MrGrenadine

    Tired of hearing people hate on longer battle times in strategic RPG's

    I respectfully disagree that 4e gives double the meaningful decision points. Just because there was no specific rule for an action or situation in early editions of the game, doesn't mean characters couldn't do that action or create/respond to that situation, or that the DM couldn't effectively...
  16. MrGrenadine

    Pathfinder 1E Clark Peterson supporting Pathfinder?

    I do not know Mr. Peterson, but it seems to me that his "soul of D&D" comment, and his shift from 4e to Pathfinder are pretty clear indications of where his passions lie. Also, I think your assertion IS unfair. What else has Mr. Peterson been doing for years, if not writing good games and...
  17. MrGrenadine

    Is Wotc Slipping?

    But how I wish Paizo and WotC would just publish their damn numbers just once, just so every side could claim victory and we could put this line of discussion to bed once and for all.
  18. MrGrenadine

    Loremaster Article: To GSL or not to GSL?

    If you are as aggressive on behalf of your clients, when there are real stakes, as you are on behalf of yourself in a simple forum thread, then you must be a very good lawyer. But you're coming on a little strong, and it wouldn't hurt to treat the thread as a conversation amongst equals. As...
  19. MrGrenadine

    Pathfinder 1E Gama trade show - Pathfinder Basic

    Well *you* certainly could. Just leave out the bells and whistles. Me? I can't wait to get my hands on the set--bells, whistles and all.
  20. MrGrenadine

    Legends & Lore 3/12

    Fascinating. I play in a weekly Pathfinder game, and a weekly 4e game--both with terrific DMs, and great players--and I find the conditional bonuses and debuffs in 4e just as fiddly. Some things that popped up in a combat from our last 4e session: Song of Courage--+1 to attacks. Divine...
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