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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    "Yeah, why isn't there a White History Month?"
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    The number of guys (and funny, they're all guys) stepping forward in this thread to vehemently argue about the "politics" and "control" and "I would make false accusations against women to prove my point" and the like? You're seeing, in real time, right here, why there's a problem in the gaming...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    It was fairly easy to spot the alpha-displays of the Bearded FedoraTarian early on, to be fair.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    ...and there we are. It's almost like playing Bingo with these guys, isn't it?
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    If people "constantly make claims against you", perhaps one should ask what it is it about one's own behavior which is leading to that happening. These things don't happen in a vacuum, y'know. There's not some secret cabal of Cootie-Bearing-Wimmens that decided "let's all falsely accuse this...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Probably for the best. If anybody had any doubts before that he was trolling, it has been well and truly put to rest at this point. Best to leave him in the box with Fergurg, Wolvercote, AWizardInDallas, et. al.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    See, that may be the issue. I don't think there is such a thing as a "right to attend." It's a private event, and the owner can boot anyone they wish, for any reason. It's in all of the Terms of Service that we all click "AGREE" to when we buy tickets for Cons. Refunding their ticket...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Ah. OK. Trolling. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    There isn't one. There's no "middle ground" when one side is sexual harassment & assault, and the other is being asked to leave. There's no parity there, so no reason to demand "balance." To be blunt, the gamer tendency to want "balance" in situations which ARE NOT A GAME is part of what...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    If you are seriously claiming that being prevented from pretending to be an elf for a weekend (OR being banned from a store, since you brought that up, too) is somehow a parity of "victimhood" with somebody who has been sexually harassed or assaulted, I think we can safely ignore you from here...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Wow. I was going to respond to this, but I think I'll just leave it unremarked. It stands clearly on its own, and says far more than any comment I might make regarding it. Take a good look.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I provided you with the definition. Survey statistics is a field, with specific definitions. Your understanding of the topic is incorrect. But we're drifting way off the point here, so I'll drop it.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias The survey wasn't blind, it was the results of the people who chose to respond to it. In other words, they selected themselves to be part of the statistical group.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Here's what I wonder: Why such vehemence about the "injustice" of such policies? If you're not harassing people, it doesn't apply to you. If you're not assaulting people, it doesn't apply to you. If it doesn't apply to you, why do you care so much? What effect does it have upon you at all...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Clear policy. Zero tolerance. If you are accused of harassment or assault, you are asked to leave, and your ticket price is refunded. The instances of false accusation are so small in these situations, it's literally not worth making a policy allowance for that in the name of "balance."...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I suspect it's because we're industry pros, and as such attend more such events than your average respondent, and have been doing so annually as part of our jobs for longer than many of your respondents have been in the hobby. That's going to skew the results, obviously. That's aside from the...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I believe we're not talking about criminal prosecution, so the standard you're demanding is higher than required for this situation. I have no knowledge of the situation you're citing, so I can't comment on that. I would think that as somebody who has been in a situation where they have not...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Exactly. One one side, you've got the potential for somebody to miss out on spending a weekend pretending to be an elf. On the other, letting somebody get away with harassment and/or assault. It's not even a hard decision. Or shouldn't be, for any functioning adult.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Yes, because I know that the "false accusation" thing is far, far less likely than actual harassment, despite constantly being thrown up by rape-deniers as a constant wall of noise. Because a policy of what-I'm-sure-YOU-would-see-as-"Draconian" punishment just might result in gamers being...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    So the victim is punished if there are no witnesses? Charming. Guys -- this isn't a goddamn GAME. There are no "rules" that are going to make this "balanced." Life doesn't work that way.
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