We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Taneras

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This is about context. When someone talks about being hurt when they were cheated on, you don't counter with, "Well you know what else hurts? Papercuts!"

Thankfully that's not what I did. I simply pointed out that in an effort to create resolution you could also be causing harm to people. You might not find it as a big deal, but but if progressives have taught me anything its that you can't dismiss someones experiences like that.

Again, you see this as "punishment". This isn't about punishment, judgment, or justice. It's about resolving conflict.

Removing the people making complaints would serve that end as well, but something tells me you'd be against that. It wouldn't be just or fair would it? Tough...

Of course I'm not actually suggesting that... Just making a point.

I'm done for now, heading out to eat.
 

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Dannager

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I'd argue its your responsibility as a member of a society that prides itself on the ideal of justice.

I don't really care what you'd argue. If you believe, fundamentally, that concerns of immediate justice override literally every other priority, there will be no common ground on this.

And you accomplish that by automatically believing any claim and forcing people to go home for the day?

It isn't about "believing any claim." I shouldn't have to repeat this. Being removed from the event is not someone passing judgment on you, declaring you guilty, or otherwise endorsing a particular belief about whether something did or did not take place.

Yea I can't see how that wouldn't be abused. I feel that my friend was falsely accused so I make my own false accusation. Or the person in question also has an accusation to make, I guess in that instance its who gets to the venue operator first? Before you know it half the event has been sent home for the day and the other half has gone home because the entire thing was a disaster. It's clear you haven't thought this through.

I'm curious - you're aware that a huge number of events and venues work like this right now, right? Do you believe that those events regularly collapse into chaos and become wastelands devoid of people because of wild accusations?

Have you thought this through?

It sure is, which is why I'm being vocal. I do think the silent majority has yet to speak up. I've seen this play out in other groups as well, just because the current trend is one way doesn't mean it'll continue to go that way.

It will.

If that's the case, whats to stop the venue organizer from ignoring justice for the person claiming that they were harassed?

The scarcity of false accusations versus the commonplace nature of casual harassment means that you're more likely to avoid future conflict by removing the accused than by removing the accuser. I'm astonished that this needs to be explained.

And, again, so we're clear. The policy you're suggesting is to believe anyone who's made a claim without anything else?

No. I've stated multiple times that "believing" one way or the other doesn't enter into it.

Keep in mind what inspired this from the start, AngryTiger(I believe was his name) was concerned with minorities getting believed automatically without any evidence but their own testimony. While I made it clear I'm not making the same point as they were, I do think there is danger in simply beinging anyone who's making a harassment claim.

Yes, that's a danger (though a tiny, tiny one). Fortunately, no one is saying anything about belief or judgment.

Maybe you'll realize that if people constantly make claims against you and you're never able to make it a whole session at these events.

Why the everloving hell would people be constantly making claims of harassment against you? Have you ever considered that if this is a persistent problem for you, you might actually be the problem?

Not at all, I just prefer actual justice. Mod rule isn't the way to go.

I think you mean "mob rule", but I can't tell, since it's actually "venue organizer and manager rule".
 


Dannager

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Thankfully that's not what I did. I simply pointed out that in an effort to create resolution you could also be causing harm to people.

And my argument, and the argument of others here, is that the very minor risk of the very minor harm of being removed from an event is worth it. Again, there's no need to rehash this.

Removing the people making complaints would serve that end as well, but something tells me you'd be against that.

Again, you're more likely to avoid future conflict by removing the accused than the accuser.

Also, in the event that you did unjustly remove someone, it's much less harmful to tell someone, "Sorry we removed you, it looks like the complaint against you was fabricated, but we had to be on the safe side," than it is to tell someone, "Sorry we removed you, it looks like you were groped after all, but we had to be on the safe side."
 
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Dannager

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...and there we are.

It's almost like playing Bingo with these guys, isn't it?

It's almost a rule of the internet - as a discussion continues the probability that a discussion participant's political leanings will be revealed to be exactly what you suspected approaches 1.
 

GMSkarka

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It's almost a rule of the internet - as a discussion continues the probability that a discussion participant's political leanings will be revealed to be exactly what you suspected approaches 1.

It was fairly easy to spot the alpha-displays of the Bearded FedoraTarian early on, to be fair.
 

Tormyr

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I am a male DM who made the mistake of putting a case of insinuated rape into a game session.

The party was in pursuit of a bad guy through ruins and tried to get ahead of him by gating. They did not check ahead well and gated into a empty clearing with a cooking pit. Shortly several trolls came forth and surrounded the party asking why they were here. The wizard (who is also the cook) piped up with, "To cook you dinner!" (Hey it had worked before.) They were taken to the beholder boss of the trolls and talked their way into not having to fight the trolls and make dinner instead. A female troll had taken a liking to the cook, and we she tasted his food, she immediately scooped him up and took him back to her hut, everyone seemed to be enjoying the description so for, so I made some comments about hearing some yells from the tent and ended the session.

When I later told my wife about the session, she verbally smacked me up the side of my head. I apologized for the insinuation to the player, and he and I worked out that his PC dimension doored out and left an illusion of his dead form. His PC would then haunt the rest of the party who had left him at the hands of the troll.

At the next session, I started by apologizing to the entire group and expressed that I did not want rape in my game at all. We then carried on with the party discovering the body/illusion and failing their insight checks. The wizard haunted the party for the rest of the night.

The players really enjoyed both sessions and accepted my apology. It was a really difficult experience for me because of how I normally feel about such subjects and how easily I slipped into that mistake. I do not understand the misogyny, bigotry, and other things that have plagued gaming and agree that they have no place in gaming, digital, tabletop or otherwise.
 

Fergurg

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I think cameras are a great start, its a cheap and effective way to catch some of the complaints. I also think an even more important step would be to push the idea that its important to report incidents you see, even if they didn't happen to you. I don't think its fair to take action on a single report, however if multiple people are backing it up then its much easier to take it serious and actually take action.

I think we have our solution. More cameras, more security, and a "See something, say something" policy.

Cuts down on the harassment by its very presence, provides the ability to prove the true accusations, and provides safeguards against innocent people being falsely accused.

Now, let's stop talking about implementing a policy of "The accusation is the evidence" and talk about how we can implement these ideas instead.
 

I'm A Banana

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Dannager said:
Again, you're more likely to avoid future conflict by removing the accused than the accuser.

Also, in the event that you did unjustly remove someone, it's much less harmful to tell someone, "Sorry we removed you, it looks like the complaint against you was fabricated," than it is to tell someone, "Sorry we removed you, it looks like you were groped after all!"

Not only that, but if you remove the accuser, you create a chilling effect that means that more harassment goes unreported, which can then create the impression that harassment "doesn't really happen here," which can then make it a safe place to get away with harassment. In a world where we all agree that harassment is bad and think it should be stopped, that's the opposite of what we want! There are better systems!

Dannager said:
It isn't about "believing any claim." I shouldn't have to repeat this. Being removed from the event is not someone passing judgment on you, declaring you guilty, or otherwise endorsing a particular belief about whether something did or did not take place.
I think this is worth repeating - it's not like con organizers are moral or legal judges! They're just trying to keep the peace at their nerdfest. Tossing out accused harassers just seems like the best way to do that (even though sometimes they'll be tossing out innocent people). Tossing out one innocent person vs. letting several women get harassed - not necessarily an easy call, but I think I'd err in favor of tossing out that one innocent person.

Dannager said:
GMSkarka said:
Taneras said:
but if progressives have taught me anything...
...and there we are.
It's almost like playing Bingo with these guys, isn't it?
It's almost a rule of the internet - as a discussion continues the probability that a discussion participant's political leanings will be revealed to be exactly what you suspected approaches 1.

It's weird to me that it even is brought up, honestly. It's not like "Harassment is bad so lets talk about what we can do to minimize it" is really a political argument. It doesn't matter what I think about state-controlled markets or the estate tax or the New Deal or UKIP or Democratic Socialists or Roe v. Wade or whatever. We can all basically agree that harassment is bad and that we should do what we can to minimize it! I don't think there's anyone who's exactly pro-harassment as a political point!

I mean, what, there's some grand left-wing liberal conspiracy out there to...stop people from groping asses without consent?
 
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