We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Taneras

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Out of curiosity, Taneras, what was the correct answer, there? Should I have told you that I have no idea what their experience is like, giving you the opportunity to explain how awful I am for presuming to know? Or was it better to say what I did, giving you the opportunity to explain how awful I am for minimizing someone else's experience?

I don't know, I wouldn't have minimized the experiences of someone who was falsely accused in the first place.

When you start to conflate having to leave a game day with being the victim of sexual assault

I never said that, I just said that they were also a victim. That doesn't mean that I'm claiming all victims are equal in their experiences, though. Clearly they people who have been falsely accused aren't on par with sexual assault victims. But I guess I'll have to repeat this another dozen times before people actually believe that not only do I not support such a stance but that I never even suggested that I did in the first place.
 

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MechaPilot

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I never made a comparison between being removed for being falsely accused and anything else, so yes that assumption is entirely on your end. All I've said is that someone has been wronged if they've been falsely accused and by a single testimony alone have been removed from an event. I view people who've been wronged as victims. It's that simple. I don't think its relevant to rank victims if the intent is to dismiss some of them all together.

Example: Oh stop complaining about your in-game character getting raped, women are raped in real life!

Yes, women are raped in real life, but that seems to be minimizing the victim who's had their character raped in a table top setting. Likewise, telling someone who's been unfairly removed from an event because of a single false report is still a victim, and mentioning other "bigger victims" only to dismiss that persons experiences is no better than the example I gave above.

So how about we try to come up with a way to minimize both?

The only way to verify these things, or refute them, with the greatest degree of certainty is to have a record of them. So, more cameras that are placed so as to capture such events would seem like a relatively simple step in the right direction. A greater security presence could also help in that you have more opportunities for eye-witnesses. Spreading awareness that harassment and assault and false accusations of the same will not be tolerated is also a good way to make potential witnesses more alert for these things.
 


Dannager

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I don't know, I wouldn't have minimized the experiences of someone who was falsely accused in the first place.

Adorable.

I never said that, I just said that they were also a victim.

Yes. You use the same loaded terminology to apply to both. That's the point. You're doing it deliberately, and it's intellectually dishonest.

That doesn't mean that I'm claiming all victims are equal in their experiences, though.

No, but using the term "victim" for both means that you've shifted the conversation towards a concern over justice for both parties, when that isn't where your priorities should be.

Clearly they people who have been falsely accused aren't on par with sexual assault victims.

Then stop using every available opportunity to tell people that removing someone from an event is just like forcing someone to deal with sexual assault.
 

Taneras

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Apparently being told to deal with a false accusation is no different than being told to deal with sexual assault. Didn't have to hunt very far for that one.

Yes, "you're no different from someone who's been sexually assaulted telling someone else to suck it up because they've also been sexually assaulted and it wasn't that bad" in that you're pretending to know how they felt in that situation when they could have experienced it differently.

I'm not comparing the experiences of the falsely accused and the sexual assault victims, I'm comparing your method of dismissal of each as the same ("I've experienced that and its not that bad").
 

GMSkarka

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I don't think the middle ground is between harassment/assault & being asked to leave. I think the middle ground is between right to a safe environment and the right to attend.

See, that may be the issue. I don't think there is such a thing as a "right to attend." It's a private event, and the owner can boot anyone they wish, for any reason. It's in all of the Terms of Service that we all click "AGREE" to when we buy tickets for Cons.

Refunding their ticket purchase is a courtesy, intended to remove some of the sting -- since, by the letter of the Terms of Service that most Cons operate under, they don't even have to do that. "We reserve the right to deny service," etc.
 

I'm A Banana

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GMSkarka said:
Clear policy. Zero tolerance. If you are accused of harassment or assault, you are asked to leave, and your ticket price is refunded. The instances of false accusation are so small in these situations, it's literally not worth making a policy allowance for that in the name of "balance." Again, we're not talking about prosecution here, but attendance to a privately-owned event. The owner can boot anybody they like -- and with a ticket refund, there's even less grounds for claims of "injustice."

Again -- this is for situations where legal authorities are not called in. Obviously, in those cases, the police handle the matter.
I'm fond of this solution. In a world where you're going to make a mistake sooner or later, erring on throwing out someone who doesn't deserve to be thrown out is probably the better solution from a Con Organizer perspective, and refunding the ticket price is a nice gesture to the distant and unusual possibility of it being an unfounded accusation.

It seems like the counter-point basically amounts to "being thrown out of a con is worse than being sexually harassed", which really just sounds like those people not really understanding the pain of being sexually harassed (or caring about someone who was). The Pandora Project isn't a bad starting point for those who want to educate themselves about what it's like to be sexually harassed, but ultimately, you can't force empathy.

I haven't ever actually heard of anyone actually being unjustly thrown out of a con due to an accusation of harassment ever, so while being thrown out of a con for doing something vile you didn't do would suck, that suck seems only hypothetical while the pain of people who experience sexual assault at cons is ACTUAL. Even if the former pain was actual, as well, it seems much more mild and much more rare than sexual assault. It sucks, but in an imperfect world, it's the least suck. It absolutely is a better situation, IMO, than allowing a harasser to walk around unpunished simply because there's no "proof." That's not a danger I would put my wife or children in.
 
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Dannager

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you're pretending to know how they felt in that situation when they could have experienced it differently.

"But they could have experienced it differently!" isn't a blanket excuse for behavior, nor does it erase the actual problem. Again, you're concerned about "justice" for both sides, and that isn't the concern a venue operator (or the community at large) has.
 

Taneras

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Yes. You use the same loaded terminology to apply to both. That's the point. You're doing it deliberately, and it's intellectually dishonest.

Wow, the word "victim" is a loaded term?

No, but using the term "victim" for both means that you've shifted the conversation towards a concern over justice for both parties, when that isn't where your priorities should be.

So you don't think that justice should be applied to everyone? Minor injustices, or at least things you deem as minor injustices, should be over looked right?

Then stop using every available opportunity to tell people that removing someone from an event is just like forcing someone to deal with sexual assault.

I said the methods you've used to dismiss someone being ejected are no different from the ones sometimes employed to minimize the experiences of sexual assault victims. That's it.
 

Taneras

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"But they could have experienced it differently!" isn't a blanket excuse for behavior, nor does it erase the actual problem.

For what behavior? All I've said is that you're potentially brushing off someone who was a victim of a false accusation.

Again, you're concerned about "justice" for both sides, and that isn't the concern a venue operator (or the community at large) has.

I don't think you, or even the few people in this thread, speak for the community. And yes I'm concerned about justice for everyone, you make that sound like its a bad thing.
 
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