We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Dannager

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Wow, the word "victim" is a loaded term?

Yes, absolutely, when used in that way.

So you don't think that justice should be applied to everyone?

I don't believe that justice is always an immediate or absolute goal. Other goals can precede it in priority. This is one of those cases.

Minor injustices, or at least things you deem as minor injustices, should be over looked right?

You can explore those injustices on your own time. Meanwhile, the venue operator is going to put an end to the immediate problem.

I said the methods you've used to dismiss someone being ejected are no different from the ones sometimes employed to minimize the experiences of sexual assault victims. That's it.

And you're wrong. I'm not going to hash this particular point out any further with you.
 

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Dannager

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For what behavior? All I've said is that you're potentially brushing off someone who was a victim of a false accusation.

It isn't my job, as a hypothetical venue operator, to address concerns of justice. It's my job to keep my event running smoothly and to foster a sense of welcoming and acceptance. You can bring your concerns over personal justice to someone who has the time and patience to deal with them.

I don't think you, or even the few people in this thread, speak for the community.

I wouldn't claim to, with certainty. I do, however, know which way things are headed. And it isn't the way you want.

And yes I'm concerned about justice for everyone, you make that sound like its a bad thing.

It is, when petty concerns over justice and imagined slights override your good sense and other priorities. When conflict takes place in an environment that should be conflict-free, the top priority is not "justice". The top priority is putting an end to the conflict before it gets further out of hand.

Ironic, isn't it, that the sort of person who decries the notion of "social justice" is also the sort of person obsessed with social justice when they're confronted with the possibility that they might one day be subject to an injustice of their own.
 

GMSkarka

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And you're wrong. I'm not going to hash this particular point out any further with you.

Probably for the best. If anybody had any doubts before that he was trolling, it has been well and truly put to rest at this point. Best to leave him in the box with Fergurg, Wolvercote, AWizardInDallas, et. al.
 

Taneras

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Yes, absolutely, when used in that way.

Perhaps we're using different definitions. I consider someone a victim if they've been wronged by someone or some group. Here the wrong would be a false accusation leading to punishment that isn't deserved. If this isn't what a victim is to you, fine. What would you label it as though?

I don't believe that justice is always an immediate or absolute goal. Other goals can precede it in priority. This is one of those cases.

I do, because if its not then the results could be unjust. I'm also the type of person who doesn't want to give up justice/rights/freedoms/whatever just for security. I'll mention something I said earlier in this thread to someone else. It seems at the most basic level there seems to be vastly different ideologies behind each side here.

And you're wrong. I'm not going to hash this particular point out any further with you.

Please don't pretend you ever tried to clarify your statement about you knowing what its like to be falsely accused.
 

Taneras

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So how about we try to come up with a way to minimize both?

The only way to verify these things, or refute them, with the greatest degree of certainty is to have a record of them. So, more cameras that are placed so as to capture such events would seem like a relatively simple step in the right direction. A greater security presence could also help in that you have more opportunities for eye-witnesses. Spreading awareness that harassment and assault and false accusations of the same will not be tolerated is also a good way to make potential witnesses more alert for these things.

I think cameras are a great start, its a cheap and effective way to catch some of the complaints. I also think an even more important step would be to push the idea that its important to report incidents you see, even if they didn't happen to you. I don't think its fair to take action on a single report, however if multiple people are backing it up then its much easier to take it serious and actually take action.
 

Dannager

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Perhaps we're using different definitions. I consider someone a victim if they've been wronged by someone or some group.

Okay, stop. This isn't about definitions. This is about context. When someone talks about being hurt when they were cheated on, you don't counter with, "Well you know what else hurts? Papercuts!" Yes, both uses fit the literal definition of "hurt", but one of them is so far removed from the other that using the same term to refer to both in the same discussion becomes less about mutual understanding and more about an attempt to frame the discussion in a certain equivocating light.

Here the wrong would be a false accusation leading to punishment that isn't deserved. If this isn't what a victim is to you, fine. What would you label it as though?

Again, you see this as "punishment". This isn't about punishment, judgment, or justice. It's about resolving conflict.

I do, because if its not then the results could be unjust.

Oh no. How awful. A minor case of the personal injustices. How will humanity ever recover.

I'm also the type of person who doesn't want to give up justice/rights/freedoms/whatever just for security.

Oh christ, if you start throwing around poorly-understood Franklin quotes, I'm out.

I'll mention something I said earlier in this thread to someone else. It seems at the most basic level there seems to be vastly different ideologies behind each side here.

OBVIOUSLY.
 

I'm A Banana

Potassium-Rich
I think cameras are a great start, its a cheap and effective way to catch some of the complaints. I also think an even more important step would be to push the idea that its important to report incidents you see, even if they didn't happen to you.

These aren't bad ideas, either. (I like [MENTION=82779]MechaPilot[/MENTION] 's further ideas of more security and including false accusations in the con agreement you sign!) More cameras and security might make con tickets more expensive - would you be willing to pay an extra $20 or so to make sure the con's got more robust security? Replace a few of our Jimbos with some trained professionals? I know I'd be down, and I'm someone who is usually quite suspicious about increased security and surveillance. :)
 


Taneras

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It isn't my job, as a hypothetical venue operator, to address concerns of justice.

I'd argue its your responsibility as a member of a society that prides itself on the ideal of justice.

It's my job to keep my event running smoothly and to foster a sense of welcoming and acceptance.

And you accomplish that by automatically believing any claim and forcing people to go home for the day? Yea I can't see how that wouldn't be abused. I feel that my friend was falsely accused so I make my own false accusation. Or the person in question also has an accusation to make, I guess in that instance its who gets to the venue operator first? Before you know it half the event has been sent home for the day and the other half has gone home because the entire thing was a disaster. It's clear you haven't thought this through.

I wouldn't claim to, with certainty. I do, however, know which way things are headed. And it isn't the way you want.

It sure is, which is why I'm being vocal. I do think the silent majority has yet to speak up. I've seen this play out in other groups as well, just because the current trend is one way doesn't mean it'll continue to go that way.

When conflict takes place in an environment that should be conflict-free, the top priority is not "justice".

If that's the case, whats to stop the venue organizer from ignoring justice for the person claiming that they were harassed?

The top priority is putting an end to the conflict before it gets further out of hand.

And, again, so we're clear. The policy you're suggesting is to believe anyone who's made a claim without anything else? Keep in mind what inspired this from the start, AngryTiger(I believe was his name) was concerned with minorities getting believed automatically without any evidence but their own testimony. While I made it clear I'm not making the same point as they were, I do think there is danger in simply beinging anyone who's making a harassment claim.

Maybe you'll realize that if people constantly make claims against you and you're never able to make it a whole session at these events.

Ironic, isn't it, that the sort of person who decries the notion of "social justice" is also the sort of person obsessed with social justice when they're confronted with the possibility that they might one day be subject to an injustice of their own.

Not at all, I just prefer actual justice. Mod rule isn't the way to go.
 

GMSkarka

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Maybe you'll realize that if people constantly make claims against you and you're never able to make it a whole session at these events.


If people "constantly make claims against you", perhaps one should ask what it is it about one's own behavior which is leading to that happening. These things don't happen in a vacuum, y'know. There's not some secret cabal of Cootie-Bearing-Wimmens that decided "let's all falsely accuse this guy at every con he's at!"

If you "constantly" smell smoke, it might behoove you to just maybe consider that fire might be the possible source.
 

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