We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Strong surveys operate on random sampling. Random sampling surveys are much more resistant to self-selection bias than polls that are simply made available to the entire population in question.

This isn't my field of expertise, obviously, so here opening it up to the public might unintentionally show a bias from those wanting to answer it rather than a representation of everyone?

So it could actually be inflated as perhaps it encouraged people with complaints to answer. Or it could be deflated in that it could have encouraged people to speak up and show that there's nothing wrong with their hobby. Or it could very well be accurate in that there was actually very little bias in choosing to take the tests or maybe the biases roughly equaled out?

I can understand that. But I'd argue in the absence of a more rigorous poll this would seem to be at least a decent indicator, much better than simple anecdotal evidence.
 

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"When did you stop beating your wife?"

I'd really appreciate it if instead of trying to be clever you'd actually participate in this conversation and work towards improving our community.

You said:

"If people are getting upset over being compared to terrorists, then perhaps instead of lashing out they should take a look at the behavior that is getting themselves called terrible things."

To me, this essentially says that white males need to focus on the reason they're being labeled terrible things rather than being offended by being labeled terrible things.

Is that an accurate summary of what you've said? Because if it is, how is it any different from demanding that Muslims not be upset that their being called terrorists, suggesting that instead they need to look at the behavior that's causing them to be labeled terrorists? Or, replacing black person and inner city crime with the same intent present in the previous sentence.

I'm not asking you a loaded question, I'm honestly asking you a question about what you intended to say. Did you misspeak? Did I misunderstand you? What did you mean to say?
 

Fergurg said:
There is another side to this story, and here it is. It puts a whole new light on these claims that are made.
http://imgur.com/X1amFDz

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showth...hy-Harassment-Has-To-Stop/page4#ixzz45LzLrUdB

It's good to get another side, but this isn't about just one issue (read the OP), so regardless of What Actually Happened This One Time, the overall point of Harassment is Happening and it is Bad and More Can Be Done to Stop It should remain uncontroversial, no?

Hard to "respond" to Fergurg as I've got this dude on my blocked list already, and I'm only seeing his posts in the responses of others. But, worth it in this case.

After reading the linked response from Nathan Caroland of Wyrd Games, the makers of Malifaux, I will never spend any of my money on any of their products, and will encourage my friends to do the same. A response I would have respected is, "We here at Wyrd have been made aware of some pretty sexist attacks aimed at female gamers from some of our fans and possibly some of our employees. We plan on reviewing our company and fan policies so that we can reduce, and hopefully eliminate, this type of unwarranted behavior." That kind of response would have sent me out into the stores to pick up some Malifaux right away. But the response we got? Screw that company.

Thanks Fergurg, you've saved me some money. Currently, I play Warhammer 40K and Star Wars X-Wing, and I'm always looking at other tabletop miniatures games that I might want to invest in. Malifaux seems popular, and many of the figures are pretty cool looking. I was debating picking some of them up. No longer.
 
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In this case, the "punishment" is having to go home. How horrid. So, yes. On very rare occasion someone might have to leave an event before they were planning on leaving because of an unjust accusation. Life goes on. As a white male who attends the occasional convention, that's an incredibly small price to pay for the chance at improving the overall level of civility.

Ignoring the specific accusation made by AngryTiger about minorities and instantly being believed, I do think your post is simply minimizing the experiences of a victim (the person who was forced to leave because of a false accusation). Why are you ignoring this victim but focusing on others? Moreover, you're assuming that its just having to go home. It very well could be a ban from a store or event.

I'm also skeptical about the chances of such policies improving the overall level of civility. I can imagine people being upset that their friends are unjustly being removed, creating ill feelings to the person who alleged the harassment. It could incentize abusive behavior by giving people a way of removing people they don't like simply because of a harassment complaint.
 

I'd really appreciate it if instead of trying to be clever you'd actually participate in this conversation and work towards improving our community.

Yes, I'm the one not participating.

One of the first things that they teach us when you study journalism is that there is such a thing as an "unanswerable question," which is something that is phrased in such a way that no matter what the answer is...your answer is wrong. It is usually referred to by "When did you stop beating your wife?" In rhetoric, it is also known as a logical fallacy.

If you want a legitimate answer, ask a legitimate question.

And that bit that I quoted from you? More of the same. I wrote this article. I spoke with women who had utterly horrifying experiences to relate. I posted it, with the permission of the site owner, to this site (which by the way is one of my jobs), under my name in order to facilitate a conversation that needs to happen. You're an internet rando who has done nothing but attempt to derail and sidetrack this conversation, but my not answering your questions which doesn't deserve an answer is derailing the conversation. If you legitimately want to "participate in this conversation," then drop your mask and engage with the conversation honestly and wholeheartedly.

Until then "When did you stop beating your wife?" will be the answer that you get to this pointless question.
 

Yes, I'm the one not participating.

You just accused me of asking a loaded question. I didn't ask when did you start hating white men, I asked you to explain your comment.

One of the first things that they teach us when you study journalism is that there is such a thing as an "unanswerable question," which is something that is phrased in such a way that no matter what the answer is...your answer is wrong.

You don't know what I'm thinking so please stop pretending. It's not like you've spend hours trying to explain it and I'm just being unreasonable. You haven't even attempted to explain it.

I wrote this article. I spoke with women who had utterly horrifying experiences to relate. I posted it, with the permission of the site owner, to this site (which by the way is one of my jobs), under my name in order to facilitate a conversation that needs to happen. You're an internet rando who has done nothing but attempt to derail and sidetrack this conversation, but my not answering your questions which doesn't deserve an answer is derailing the conversation. If you legitimately want to "participate in this conversation," then drop your mask and engage with the conversation honestly and wholeheartedly.

My name is Christopher Hollier, so now I'm not an internet rando. Do you think if you're going to expect an honest conversation that you should assume the person you're speaking too is being honest as well? Again, you haven't even attempted to explain your comment so please don't pretend that you have reason to believe that I wouldn't accept it. I've already admitted I was mistaken about something in this thread - self selecting polling. I'm perfectly ok with being corrected. I don't appreciate your automatic assertions that I'm being dishonest, that's not participating in an honest conversation.
 

Ignoring the specific accusation made by AngryTiger about minorities and instantly being believed, I do think your post is simply minimizing the experiences of a victim (the person who was forced to leave because of a false accusation).

That's deliberate. I don't believe that missing out on a day of gaming rises to anything near the level of victimhood experienced by those who are forced to deal with harassment.

Why are you ignoring this victim but focusing on others?

I'm not ignoring the first "victim". I'm simply explaining that I'm comfortable with the very minor risk of the first sort of victimization given how incredibly mild its effects are, if it means that I can in the process minimize the much greater risk of the second sort of victimization.

Moreover, you're assuming that its just having to go home. It very well could be a ban from a store or event.

The venue's response should be reasonable, and the magnitude of that response is ultimately at the discretion of those managing the venue. I'm not going to get into the business of trying to write a harassment policy.

I'm also skeptical about the chances of such policies improving the overall level of civility.

You can be skeptical. And you can set that skepticism aside temporarily to give this a shot.

I can imagine people being upset that their friends are unjustly being removed, creating ill feelings to the person who alleged the harassment. It could incentize abusive behavior by giving people a way of removing people they don't like simply because of a harassment complaint.

There are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of venues that employ harassment policies similar to this. Your concerns would have more weight if this were actually an issue, but it isn't.
 

That's deliberate. I don't believe that missing out on a day of gaming rises to anything near the level of victimhood experienced by those who are forced to deal with harassment.

And if they tell you that you don't understand what they've experienced, then what? They'll tell you about the humiliation of being removed infront of their peers, perhaps people actually believe the false accusation, perhaps they don't get invited into as many groups. You're doing the exact same thing that others have made accusations against in this very same thread, dismissing experiences.


I'm not ignoring the first "victim". I'm simply explaining that I'm comfortable with the very minor risk of the first sort of victimization given how incredibly mild its effects are, if it means that I can in the process minimize the much greater risk of the second sort of victimization.

How do you know the risk of this occurring is minor? How do you know it would minimize the risk of actual harassment? And again, why are you dismissing the victim by putting them in quotation marks? Are you going to tell them that their experiences are wrong if they honestly feel victimized?

The venue's response should be reasonable, and the magnitude of that response is ultimately at the discretion of those managing the venue. I'm not going to get into the business of trying to write a harassment policy.

That's fine, just please don't assume that the punishment is simply going home for the day and that they'll get to go back without any other issues.

There are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of venues that employ harassment policies similar to this. Your concerns would have more weight if this were actually an issue, but it isn't.

Similar to what? Instantly believing the person claiming harassment? I don't think so.
 

Clear policy. Zero tolerance. If you are accused of harassment or assault, you are asked to leave, and your ticket price is refunded. The instances of false accusation are so small in these situations, it's literally not worth making a policy allowance for that in the name of "balance." Again, we're not talking about prosecution here, but attendance to a privately-owned event. The owner can boot anybody they like -- and with a ticket refund, there's even less grounds for claims of "injustice."

Again -- this is for situations where legal authorities are not called in. Obviously, in those cases, the police handle the matter.

The refund is a good idea. And while a agree that this is such minor issue (false accusations) that it can mostly be ignored; however, my inner sense of justice wants to find a middle ground.
 

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