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please let me come over and let anybody knock out who claims that this will give him some rest! seriously, use some common sense, so hell no! being knocked out isn't really resting. on the other hand, it's a fantasy game! maybe allow it for PCs with con > 16, dwarves, ... but realistically...

This. This. And this. for those who think now: OMFG, the wizard is powerless now! No, not true. He lost some firepower, but got more hp, cantrips, at-wills, can wear armor (costs feats, okay, but it's worth it). AKW

good idea. otherwise, why would anybody - except for the paladin - NOT take the fighter multiclass feat? you get 3 feats in one: skill training, armor & shield proficiency. I also think that the class features should be limited, full sneak attack & warlock's curse is too powerful IMO, same as...

you are right, with that feat you won't get the major defending fighter ability. but if that is your goal, than you should start with fighter and multi-class the other way. after having seen so many useless, broken or crazy (I mean those with more than 3 classes) combos in 3e, having seen 1e...

This is effing awesome! just start to play and see how it goes. and give them some minions every now and then - D&D is about having fun!

why extra rules? just tone down the monsters. or the group's level for calculating encounter level.

while this build looks technically good, the low charisma bugs me. IMHO every warlord should be at least a little charismatic. not in the flashy pretty boy sense, more the presence stuff...

this is really a good background story! and open to every warrior class IMO. just pick his style.

and you got more hitpoints, dude! defender is 15 base, +6/level.

That would be awesome. With a job and 2 kids I don't get anywhere. I'd like to contribute more, but I guess I won't achieve more than that feat list. AKW

bump nobody in for a power spreadsheet? :D

basically not a bad idea, but the 1st level class features must be limited.

good idea! here's a feat spreadsheet. if someone has something similar for powers, that would be great! I do not have any illegal pdfs, just the books, but I want to build my characters with my computer... AKW

Thanks guys! I like the tables (copy and e-mail to friends...). I would emphasize the gain of options for martial characters through powers. And actually sorry for another "4e-options"-thread. AKW

Hi, our long time gaming group is discussing 4e. Should we switch? I am for the change to 4e, me likes! The main argument from those against 4e are: 1) no more 100s of spells to choose from 2) not enough character building options! my thoughts about: 1) yes, true, the spellcasters give up...

bump. good question.

ummm, wait a second, NO skill check penalty in scale?

all eladrin teleporting like mad... crazy!

oh come on, since there are metal bands their singers like to pose that way! no rip off I'd say, just a common bad guy pose. :D

hmmm, the removal of all the metamagic stuff is definitely bad for the casters. but concerning your cleric: maybe you should give him some more melee power? and for other feats: at least intelligence is good for being a restrictive prereq for some feats... ;) AKW