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You didn't forget about me did you U_K?

Only marginally, all you've really done is outline the four possiblities based on physical/cognitive limits. These really don't need to be pointed out. No offense but all you've really done is point out things most of us know. A four part box for example isn't really necesary, the concept of...

U_K having looked at your progress level chart and Galactus's entry i notice you put the ancients from Stargate on a higher tier that Galactus(even on a higher tier than the Ultimate nullifier). I am wondering why?

First you quote that one part, disregarding that fact that humans have reverse engineered Xeelee tech. Not all of it or even close to all, but they have advanced themselves through understanding of the original. And saying the IID is just an FTL drive, when infact it may be thee most advanced...

That humans in the Xeeleeverse have accually reverse engineered Xeelee tech. That the IID teleports via omnipresence. You know basically everything except the brush off statements you gave. Meaningless, people say that to avoid losing a debate. Everything is comparible, only those who don't...

Well i've seen you've sniped out the parts that benifit your arguement. Not so much my point though. To Galactus. Prehaps, but that wasn't what i was talking about. Irrelevent, Galactus's presence or absence has no bearing on they're accomlishments. It's about comparing they're feats of...

No, becuase i've never seen him build tech that exceeds what i consider humanities limit. Culture Xeelee IID Depends on what they've done. That mortals can develop powerful tech. The only reason Reed and Doom don't is more because they are balanced for Earth rather than an accual limit...

Yes but he could do this under his own power. Him relying on his tech is really PIS considering his Galactic level power. No, he's infact had billions of years post big bang to advance himself and i see nothing to show that he's made leaps past what he started with. In short even if given...

But how often has humanity got his tech or been instructed in it's use? Realitically it shouln't work like that but in fiction the super advanced society/being is always stagnant compared to the underdeveloped ones. The thing is i don't recall Galactus ever trying to improve or build more...

The fact that i'am a regular at a debate forum has increased my already high stubborn score ;) . Your logic is that because we have never seen visiters from the future time travel can not exist. But it could be from any numbers of reasons. Maybe not, but they can most certainly put...

Very bad example, their is so many things that could effect this beyond us just not getting it. Maybe, maybe not, will power and interest play roles as well. Yes but if you got 100 100 IQ people together 1000 years ago they wouldn't come up with a computer. Yet if they had been born today...

A limit of progress level not a limit of ability. Monkey's yes, humans no. I feel that anything could be learned or at least explained to humans by someone who has it. Wrong choice of words i was thinking about the D&D definition were sentience is interchangable with sapience. Sapience is...

Their is a problem with that. We couldn't run modern computer programs manually(as in input things as they would happen if they ran automatically) but we can build machines to do it for us, just like humans couldn't deadlift a 1 ton bolder but using machines we could. Even if we couldn't do...

I figured as much. Then i have another, rather complicated question for you. :o If you disregarded the guidelines of the core books how would you handle this? Because i don't use the HD doubling guideline and i understand thats one of the big problems you have balancing HP and Damage.

This is true, however i was more referring to a more primitive person meeting and learning from a more intellegent one. In scifi/superhero settings it's possible for a primitive soceity to meet and learn from a more advanced one. I wouldn't expect a single blue print or a single peice of...

That only applies if you make the assumption that their is a type of technology that can never be explained to a lower intellegence. Which may well be impossible, as even if it relied on concepts that are too difficult to easily understand it can be simplified. Just like how people today and...

Thanks U_K, The next two questions should be it. 1. You put hp per inch of orichalcum in the Beastiary. If you use object size(+vrc) for determining hp of objects why is it included? I presume for the sake of completeness and for determining the fraction hp items and weapons that aren't pure...

exellenct, because i was seriously unwhelmed by the fact a arams tank shell does more damage than Mech and most starship weapons. I mean really, a tank shell doing more damage than a singularity cannon :confused:. Absolutly, but unlike magic, tech can be more easily duplicated and mass...

Just to clarify that means only VSC's apply to objects. Which means an objects weight/density are the only things that apply for it in terms of bonus HP? I ask this because materials in fantasy/sci fi often are tougher than normal materials but weight less. Does this mean such materials like...

The various weapons and gadgets in d20 future/future tech Like the Singularity cannon, time bridge, and antimatter gun. True enough, but Thanos certianly has reason for his high techery.