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Yes, sometimes you need to actually say the words. What is obvious to you might not be to your players. Session zero, and all that. And sometimes it still goes wrong, and the issue becomes whether you can realize in time that there probably is a misunderstanding, or a case where different...

MGibster could also just not respond when Lanefan and others reach out a hand to help, much less try to bite that hand... Anyway, let's return to the thread's original purpose.

No we aren't. Why are you so incredibly defensive on this? You keep interpreting genuinely helpful advice - or at least that's the intent - as if we're throwing shade and suspicion at you?? You don't need our permission to end your campaign. You don't need to explain to us a crash-landed...

I too got curious and offered to consider different perspectives. But MGibster appears to not want to discuss. He's fine with ditching his players on the assumption they're simple murder hobos even though it is possible (if not outright likely) he's just losing friends over a misunderstanding...

None of us presume we knew better. Stop assuming we are trying to argue against you. We were trying to help, suggesting alternative perspectives: could it be a misunderstanding and your players really aren't murder-hobos? Most people when bringing up their players as murder hobos aren't really...

No, you are misunderstanding. All of our replies are based on the assumption there was a miscommunication, that isn't simply a case where high level heroes choose a zero level commoner and just slaughter him or her for funsies. You see one thing, the players saw something else. Whether they...

The deciding factor surely is: "will I ever use this before I have run out of every other resource available to me?" Without even checking, getting it at 15 sounds incredibly underwhelming. While at level 6 it probably outshines every other free/at-will ability in the party. So it depends. Is...

Something like this needs to be handled through communication - what are your respective expectations on the campaign. Also: while you knew she was innocent (presumably because the module text said so) the players (and their characters) did not. Far too often the party gets into trouble...

It's the 2024 D&D.

Simple. There aren't any games as polished as D&D 5E but with the low:ish fantasy of Dragonlance or Game of Thrones.

Or... we read what he actually wrote. It's not the rules, it's the flavor of fantasy that's too... fantastical. There are plenty of AD&D modules that feel more like Games of Thrones. Down to earth. Players not expecting to be able to impossible things unless you're a high level spellcaster...

I can sort of understand it when the game was brand new: "we have a snowball's chance in hell of making this game succeed so let's differentiate ourselves with wacky dice - maybe someone will notice and remember us!" but yeah, ouch is it a painful gimmick. And that's coming from someone that...

I haven't found any game that combines D&D medium crunch with medium fantasy (that is, lower than high but not actually "low fantasy") that is also well balanced, well edited and well supported. If you find one, do let me know.

There definitely is a trend away from gritty campaign settings which feature "bad things" like inequality, racism, crude and unfair laws, feudalism, slavery and serfdom, etc. However, those bad things can be important tools to transport the story into "another time". I can only speak for...

This is the post I initially quoted. What I was interested in has nothing to do with templates. Instead, it has to do with categorization. Undrave is absolutely right that separating animals depending on where you find them makes no sense. The only relevant parameter for play is how you use...

As I understand it, the question is settled, at least for the 2024 PHB, which is what we're discussing.

As I just explained, I wasn't necessarily thinking about templates.

That's an extremely narrow and uncharitable viewpoint. Sure some players always stick with the old, hut as long as the new edition brings in more new players than it loses old ones, to say it splits the player base is, while technically correct, deeply misleading, and the publisher should...

I'll try to remember this prediction when our 2024 edition starts up. Let's see if any of my players will catch up on this.

Sorry - you did mention the word template in the post I replied to, but I didn't catch you were discussing it in this context. Templates aren't popular. People want shape into actual monsters, with specific stat blocks. My replies were towards the idea I thought you were entertaining - doing...