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  1. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Thanks, Spectral. I do not think anyone has expressed such a concern here yet. It looked like Ad Hoc might have been, but then it turned out she was unhappy with multiclassing in general (from a game design perspective) and with rules lawyers who assemble character combinations instead of...
  2. Hatmatter

    3PP Release AVAILABLE NOW: Multiclasser's Manual, Volume 2

    Congrats, Timespike! Is Multiclasser's Manual II based on the 2014 or 2024 versions of classes and subclasses?
  3. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    I really do not know, Ad Hoc. I have never played with such a creature that you describe as a rules lawyer. I read posts by people who would likely meet the definition here, that's about it. The multiclass builds by people on Youtube like DnD Builds (the impetus for my original post), Tulok the...
  4. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    I think, though, in thinking this through with everyone, a consensus is developing wherein the ability to acquire en Epic Boon Feat at 19+ total character level is the intent, so -- based upon the conversation in this thread -- I am not with you that there is an exploit occurring here. It's...
  5. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Hi John, Ad Hoc explained it in posts #3 and 6 of this thread. It would work like this. A multiclass character of level 15 and level 3 (15/3) advances to level 4 in one class (15/4). Such a character now has a total character level of 19. Because the only prerequisite for the Epic Boon Feat is...
  6. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    I know Ad Hoc will likely disagree (he or she is very upfront with his or her dislike of multiclassing), but the more I think about it, the more I really like the notion of the Epic Boon Feats being available to multiclassers, and even two Epic Boon Feats by 20th level for some multiclassers...
  7. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    I think ECMO3's distinction between the Epic Boon class features and Epic Boon Feats with their "Level 19+" prerequisite cracked the code, Max Person.
  8. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Gotcha. Thanks for helping me think this all through. Really, as Far Beyond C wrote a couple pages back, "It's not really all that complex." But, given that the presentation has been revised and rewritten, I just need to get my legs under me to grasp it all. (And, given that it took until the...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Thank you, ECMO3. You cite the same passage that John Lloyd did in post #12 of this thread. There has been some discussion about this in this thread. The discussion centers around the difference (and seeming opposing views) between the Ability Score class feature with "or another feat of your...
  10. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Fighting Style Feats

    Hi Kobold, thanks for responding. However, I read this three times and I cannot tell how it is different from what I wrote? Maybe you were just agreeing with me? I thought it went without saying that how the Fighting Style Initiate Feat worked...I merely included a summary in my post in order to...
  11. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Thanks, ECMO3. Do you have some page numbers and quotations you can offer to help us understand this interpretation? If you read the thread, you will see that we have all been weighing different ways of understanding what is written. You might be right with your interpretation, but it would be...
  12. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    I would LOVE to have such a reference. I have watched all of the video intervals with Crawford/Perkins/Wyatt, usually a few times. Does anyone recall about when (summer? fall?) such a video was released, I would rewatch some them to find such a comment.
  13. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Thanks, Far Beyond. If that is the general consensus here, I can run with it.
  14. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Thanks Ad Hoc. I think I follow everything except this: "If you are creating NPC characters using PC rules then you are locking yourself into an unnecessary box and that probably shouldn't be considered when evaluating the rules as you are effectively house ruling NPCs." My post here is simply...
  15. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    I appreciate your thoughts and contributions here, Ad Hoc. For clarification, when you write, "The thing that allows multiclass characters to gain the bonus before reaching those class levels is the part in the multiclass rules that specify it," are you referencing this from page 44 of the 2024...
  16. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    A reasonable and thoughtful approach Mort, thank you. I wonder what Ad Hoc would say? I find it all fascinating! I appreciate everyone helping me thinking this through.
  17. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Hmmm...the mystery deepens. So, Mort, is Ad Hoc's proposed interpretation (which -- to be clear -- Ad Hoc does not believe to be correct) in which a level 15/3 (total character level 18) character can acquire two epic boons by using the "Ability Score Improvement feat (see Chapter 5) or...
  18. Hatmatter

    D&D 5E (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

    Fascinating. I have only played around with D&D Beyond...does D&D Beyond prevent one from creating a character that violates some kind of character creation rules. For example, would I be permitted to make a character that had two 9th-level spell slots if I wanted to make such a character?
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