D&D (2024) Rules Clarification: Epic Boon at 19th Class Level or Total Character Level?

[MarkB]

Thank you, ECMO3. You cite the same passage that John Lloyd did in post #12 of this thread. There has been some discussion about this in this thread. The discussion centers around the difference (and seeming opposing views) between the Ability Score class feature with "or another feat of your choice" and the fact that the "Epic Boon" feature only appears in the various classes Features tables and explanations.

However, buried in your post here is an interesting idea I had not thought of. You appear to be suggesting that the "Epic Boon" is a feature that can bestow either an Epic Boon Feat or any other feat (which we know), BUT that feature -- which is tied to 19th class level is different from the Epic Boon Feat, which only has "Level 19+" listed as a prerequisite. This use of "Level 19+" under the Epic Boon Feat refers to character level based on how both the Elf Traits that John Lloyd pointed out and also the Warlock features that Mort pointed out are written in the 2024 PHB.

I think, ECMO3 this distinction between Epic Boon class Feature and Epic Boon Feat is an important one and may be the missing piece in terms of me understanding that a character may acquire an Epic Boon Feat whenever she or can take a Feat once total character level of 19 or higher has been reached. That action is separate from the Epic Boon class Feature, which is tied to character class level. Brilliant! Thanks!

BTW, I am not sure what you mean by "Additionally there is a table in Chapter 5 called "Feat List" and it lists all the Feats together with no differentiation on type." The Feat List table on pages 199-200 of the 2024 PHB in fact does list the type of each Feat under a column with the header "Category." Every Feat in that table is identified as being an Origin, General, Fighting Style or Epic Boon Feat.

I think it's coming together now for me and I simply want to thank everyone again for sort of thinking this through with me.

Yeah, I think the only reason the class feature is called Epic Boon is to remind players that they are now high enough level to pick from those as well as other feats. It's not meant to indicate that this feature is required in order to take Epic Boon feats - their only prerequisite is the level requirement.

 

[Hatmatter]

Yeah, I think the only reason the class feature is called Epic Boon is to remind players that they are now high enough level to pick from those as well as other feats. It's not meant to indicate that this feature is required in order to take Epic Boon feats - their only prerequisite is the level requirement.

Brilliant...love it. Thanks!

 

[Spectral Anomaly]

For those concerned that having 2 epic boon feats at multiclass-combined level 20 somehow makes a character overpowered, let's keep in mind that the rules themselves suggest that you can start piling them on for every 30k XP you gain after hitting level 20 (p 43).

 

[Hatmatter]

For those concerned that having 2 epic boon feats at multiclass-combined level 20 somehow makes a character overpowered, let's keep in mind that the rules themselves suggest that you can start piling them on for every 30k XP you gain after hitting level 20 (p 43).

Thanks, Spectral.

I do not think anyone has expressed such a concern here yet. It looked like Ad Hoc might have been, but then it turned out she was unhappy with multiclassing in general (from a game design perspective) and with rules lawyers who assemble character combinations instead of creating character concepts in the specific.