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welcome. I think you will find that the folks here are a wealth of information, so if you have any qusetions feel free to ask.

I thought you would remember that one from the module Fevil and I were working on. I need to get arround to finishing that . . .

played one once at a con. it was big fun.

sooner or later someone would realize that the profit margin is higher if you cut out the middleman. The quintissential rogue is also a fine addition although there is some overlap.

we were only starting out at 5th level so my options were somewhat limited. I figured nothing higher then ECL+2. pluss it was easy to run the "1/2 aquatic ogre idea" by the DM

this works especially good with the hag template

Look up merefolk if you were only a 1/2 and the oter 1/2 was human you could breath underwater and would still get all the benifits of "human" since the merefolk have exactly the same benifits. The storm Giant is just too much of an ECL

since its almost 1am here in So. Cal. the Sun must be almost up in Morgantown. at least we agree that the Monk is the most useless 5th wheel

unless they are organized in which case you have a cartel which is just a fancy word for thieves guild ;)

thats why those 2 were my low cost low magic solution

but thats not a bad thing. there were a lot of good ideas posted here by several people, including us.

stupid caps lock stuck and I type too slow to retpye all that mess.

Ah but if you have to "buy it" then you might as well run a shop - but thats a whole different kind of thieving :)

and I want to go on record saying that I am OPPOSED to Nerfing! especially when its my guys getting nerfed

thats why I didn't play a full Merrow or Scragg

Death is just Lifes way of telling you to take a break . . . at least until the transformation takes place. :cool:

A thieves guild called by any other name or run by any other class is the same thing. only difference is thieves just do it better! and the best thieves use the skills of others as well to inhance the whole show.

Tritons I had thought of but they are still a fish outta water when you do the "boat and landwalking thing" and I wanted to do both. as I saw it my 2 best options were to either plar a 1/2 merefolk ECL +0 basicly a human that can breathe under water ie: Waterworld or a 1/2 Merrow - take a hit on...

the only other sources I am aware of have all been posted above. guess He will just have to read the whole thread.

Hogwash!!! in order for any decient city to thrive ecconomically it must have an active criminal "black market"