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  1. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    For those of us who have already seen the 2 that came before it (bloody hell, just looked it up and found 3 more direct to video D&D films--just in case the others weren't bad enough), we're not really worried about more being made. There is so much other fantasy that is far far better in film...
  2. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    Before all this bananas tailspin stuff, my basic thought was "wait and see." Sounds like a video game to me--and that's fine! I like D&D video games! If the price is right, maybe I'll check it out! I mean, it's not TTRPG stuff, but I've never really expected my video games to replace that and I...
  3. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    By the way, please do not miscontrue my severence with D&D as a judgement on anyone else. Yes I am both passionate and vocal. That is more of a matter of principle than any particular need to control any results. When it comes to me, everyone can rest assured that I will not gatekeep or judge...
  4. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    I feel that this is exactly the situation we don't want, because that's what led to all this hubbub to begin with. And I don't just direct that sentiment at D&D--I personally don't think there should be any one single King of the Hill in the RPG world.
  5. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    Right and I wasn't ignoring everything else you said--with which I agree--but I was only responding to the first bit. If you compare the MTG market to the D&D market... MTG is competetive, D&D is cooperative, and I believe that's an important distinction to help understand what the flip just...
  6. ThorinTeague

    WotC Backs Down: Original OGL To Be Left Untouched; Whole 5E Rules Released as Creative Commons

    There is not yet a meaningful answer to that question. Quarters are what matter.
  7. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    WoTC tries to pull a fraud, breach of contract, And the most shameless and egregious--not to mention illegal money grab in history. And D&D players feel betrayed by the TTRPG community. If true, That's a huge win for WoTC, who was used to MTG players which are competitive not cooperative and...
  8. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    They can go bananas with any new ogl as much as they want. They can demand 3pps firstborn child to the fifth generation. They can demand tribute brought to them in a golden chest and laid at their feet while they're being fed grapes and fanned with palm leaves. What they cannot do is disallow...
  9. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    It seems to be 5.1 plus a few chicken nuggets... E.g. mind flayer
  10. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    There were in fact four instances of TSR or WoTC engaged in some flavor or another of these shenanigans throughout the history of D&D: Mid 80s Mid 90s 2008 2023
  11. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    Resent is like drinking poison and then expecting the subject of your resent to take the damage.
  12. ThorinTeague

    WotC Backs Down: Original OGL To Be Left Untouched; Whole 5E Rules Released as Creative Commons

    I know. 3 weeks ago, I "knew" that OGL 1.0a could never be deactivated. I "knew" WoTC could change anything they want, because if the community didn't like it they wouldn't switch to the changed license. I "knew" WoTC would never try this course of action again because what they did in 2008...
  13. ThorinTeague

    It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

    I agree that forgiveness is sorely lacking in modern life and more forgivens should be granted. That said: 1, you can forgive from a distance. 2. you can forgive and also move on. 3. forgetting is not a requirement of forgiveness. 4. you forgive people, not corporations. your emotions are...
  14. ThorinTeague

    WotC Backs Down: Original OGL To Be Left Untouched; Whole 5E Rules Released as Creative Commons

    I mean if I were publishing, I wouldn't be going back to OGL1.0a. I know many existing publishers already altered course and don't intend to turn around now. Getting complacent could be unhealthy.
  15. ThorinTeague

    WotC Backs Down: Original OGL To Be Left Untouched; Whole 5E Rules Released as Creative Commons

    At this time, 3.x and 5 were the only ones that were open, and I am not asking to open other versions of the game that were never open. (Although I wouldn't mind--but that's not really the point). The point is, publishers been given a promise that OGL1.0a will be there forever, the same promise...
  16. ThorinTeague

    WotC Backs Down: Original OGL To Be Left Untouched; Whole 5E Rules Released as Creative Commons

    I'm asking for the previous editions to be added. 3.0 and 3.5. I'm also asking for the architects of this course of action to be fired.
  17. ThorinTeague

    WotC Backs Down: Original OGL To Be Left Untouched; Whole 5E Rules Released as Creative Commons

    Oh but they've been so trustworthy up to this point, you cynical ol' curmudgeon, you.
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