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I wouldn’t call what the dm does force if they’ve agreed to have the dm place them back on the path in the event they wander off it. There’s a difference in saying, hey wizard polymorph me into a frog and the wizard forcefully polymorphing me into a frog without my consent.

That seems like a rather large detail? We even send people to jail or not based on that distinction. Sorry, but the way you show a playstyle isn’t bad isn’t to repurpose a pejorative term to describe it, it’s to use the non-pejorative term to describe it. I’d have some sympathy if there...

That’s helpful. So I should have been more clear. I thought it was clear the context was in regards to forcing to stay on a particular path. Thus ‘forcing everything when it comes to not staying on the path’. Which to me reads identical to @Maxperson.

If you voluntarily agreed to it then there’s no force involved. Don’t railroads involve forcing the players to stay in the path?

I guess my question there is why not keep the standard meaning of the 80’s and 90’s term when we have a different term to reference the exact thing you describe? (Also notable is that railroaded is not a term that originated in RPGs it’s much older than them, and was always perhorative). Or...

I don’t see the difference you envision here?

That’s cool. I’d offer the same but when you say it 2 days from now is I’m sure I’ll forget I either made that commitment or to whom I made it to.

Anyways, @TwoSix sometimes I apparently take the long hard road ti make my point. Our back and forth here may have been entertaining but was hardly worthwhile. My point is that if it was just us 2 and we agree to disagree that means we don’t bring it up to each other. I’d agree with that. But...

So you are not agreeing we disagree?

I didn’t agree to that.

Why would I need to do that?

Awesome, Does that mean you’re not going to repeatedly tell me you disagree with me. Would kind of be pointless since you already agree we don’t agree, right?

Max, you said this as a disagreement to someone else saying a railroad means the dm forces everything. Now your telling me you agree that its only a railroad if the dm forces everything (no paths off) because that’s the only way for there to be no exits.

Other than that not being a railroad, sure ;)

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Sure but your definition wasn’t ’most of the time you can get off anywhere’.

Sure. But that doesn’t mean that every bit of path has a possible exit, just that the path has possible exits somewhere.

Yea, ‘forced linear’.

I wouldn’t even call that a railroad if that’s what the players agreed to. At a minimum character backstory is authoring that players do. So I can’t really disagree with the statement, but it could easily be interpreted much more broadly and I would have some issues with some of those more...

I think deception is the most common way to ‘force’ players along, but not the only?