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  1. Aging Bard

    D&D General What "lateral thinking" campaign would you like to see?

    Here's another example. It might be better and more applicable than my first example. The board game Pandemic Legacy Season 1 (PLS1). Seriously, this is going to be a YUUGE spoiler. If you have not played PLS1 (and your REALLY should, it's awesome), do not read the spoiler. But if you have...
  2. Aging Bard

    D&D General What "lateral thinking" campaign would you like to see?

    This is quite good DMing advice generally!
  3. Aging Bard

    D&D General What "lateral thinking" campaign would you like to see?

    Yes, this is a very good point. I think you have to make the main campaign as engaging as possible so that the lateral campaign can truly go undiscovered, but that is a great deal of work for the DM.
  4. Aging Bard

    D&D General What "lateral thinking" campaign would you like to see?

    Let me explain! We are all familiar with campaigns that have some key secret(s) that will be discovered in due course. I'm interested in more novel sorts of secrets, revelations, lost lore, buried knowledge, forbidden arcana, and so forth. Secrets of reality that may never be revealed and would...
  5. Aging Bard

    D&D General Story Now, Skilled Play, and Elephants

    DEFCON 1's points are mostly solid, but I'll add some clarifications: 1) 5e combat is also nothing but a series of decisions, die rolls to resolve those decisions, and referral to the rules to interpret the die rolls. So combat has a "Skills Manual" we all agree to use. The question is why do...
  6. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Thanks again everyone for the great discussion. I've been trying to keep up, but it's getting a little tougher. You all talk a lot! :) One thing I want to clarify is my view on Neutral. I view it more as "indifference or unimportance" rather than "in between. I understand how the latter seems...
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    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Upvote for this cartoon alone--one of my favs! As to your post, I want to read it carefully. There has been some discussion already of the old Law-Chaos axis and its pedigree (Smith, Moorcock, Anderson). tl;dr I'd play in that setting (hell, I DID back in 1978), but that's not what my post was...
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    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Thanks for this thoughtful comment. How you "norm" alignment (i.e. center it) is an important question. If you norm it at Neutral, them my approach probably won't be to your liking. I understand why centering Neutral solves certain gameplay style problems, and that's fine. But I'm a 1e player...
  9. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Yup, I'm familiar with 4e and it's a decent approach. I don't actually like Unaligned because it doesn't reflect the way most people behave. 5e calls Neutral someone who doesn't want to take a stance either way, but in my mind that's just a low-key Lawful Good. But if you want Lawful Good and...
  10. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    This is very insightful, a good analogy. I'd urge to read the original post and some of the comments to get the whole thesis.
  11. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Hey, Mercurius, thanks for posting! I know you are a thoughtful commenter. I'll just say that the community-individuality idea has been mentioned multiple times, it is not my view, and if you have a chance to read the thread I think you will see what exactly is my view. I would greatly...
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    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    I think I understand your views, but they are not mine. Because we have decoupled Good/Evil from Law/Chaos, I don't view Law/Chaos as so diametrically opposed, that's what Good/Evil fulfill. I've given my definition of Law and Chaos. I have also noted in prior replies that I do not subscribe to...
  13. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Yup, this is exactly my view and I could happily adopt these labels.
  14. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Yes, this is very close to my outlined view of Chaos in the original post ("your own drive and instincts" = "your code"). My comment about collective-individual was about some other prior comments.
  15. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    The collective-individual definition of Law-Chaos has already been brought up. I think it's fine and playable. It's less interesting than I'd like, but that's a very personal opinion. And I do happen to think that it's about laws!
  16. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Yes, I'm aware of the differences. In America, it's taken on a certain bent. That's indeed what I was referring to.
  17. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Wow, I think you've hit upon something important. I think that monster groups have largely replaced alignment in 5e. The changes to the detect and protect spells reflect this. I think this is les interesting, but it is simpler, and 5e is all about simpler.
  18. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    This is very interesting. It's not my solution, but with some more details I'd love to play in this world.
  19. Aging Bard

    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    The way I decided that elves could have a Chaotic Good society is by adding a huge bond of kinship, exactly what real life humans do not have. So two elves could discuss their very different codes, and debate and critique them, but ultimately accept their differences because they are elves first...
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    D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

    Great post. I think you have Chaotic Neutral nailed. Or even Chaotic Whatever. I could play in this world.
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