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Book burning. Enlightened.

Since the thread's running, has anyone got links to more entertaining anti-D&D screeds? Or counterarguments? Here's one of the latter.

Actually, I've always identified with that particular Chick Tract. When I call girls to ask them out, they often say "not tonight. I'm fighting the zombie."

I endorse Stoat, seconding Havilar, supporting Kamikaze Midget.

My experience is similar to the OP's. As a child I enjoyed playing a fighter who could take down a dozen orcs in a combat, but after a few years of muay thai and an edifying mugging, I found I couldn't stomach the cheesiness any more. It's one of the reasons I'm leaning toward OD&D again...

Hmm. What is this thread missing? I know! A humourless hobbit fan to split hairs over the perceived laziness of 0E halflings! This looks like a job for Hairfoot. Tolkien's Shire hobbits were the product of several generations of easy, unthreatened living. They were no more or less likely to...

I went with neutral, sales are good. My recent ENworld comments make it appear that I don't like 4E - especially one yesterday where I wrote "I don't like 4E" - but in fact I believe it's a splendid, well-designed miniatures wargame which is worthy of praise and purchase. I just resent it...

Throw in Swords & Wizardry while you're there. Oop. Beaten to it.

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Dracosuave, the analogies are inaccurate. If someone invented teleportation technology, some people would still drive cars because they enjoy the experience. Let's say that the overwhelming majority of those are Ford enthusiasts. If Ford then packed up, a lot of those people wouldn't bother...

Literally?

I genuinely would. At the moment I feel like a biker who's been primed for the release of a new Harley Davidson line, only to find that all of their bikes will from now on have a silent electric motor, an extra wheel, and a default bright pastel paint scheme with Hello Kitty highlights. Oh...

Good point. I'd be mollified if they'd just change the name to something more representative, like "Magic: the RPG" or "Hasbro Fantasy Superhero Boardgame" and continue real D&D as a side project. Ask if he'll do that.

I'd ask him if it was marketing or PR who came up with the idea of talking to a fan as a way of making the company seem less ruthless and self-serving.

As Leslie Poles Hartley said, "the past is a foreign country; they do things differently there." I think that during the TSR era the people who chucked in D&D went to another RPG, like GURPS. But these days they go to a MMORPG. If WotC screws it up, the industry itself may go into a terminal...

I agree. But what if the fumbling juggernaut uses its influence to squeeze the smaller guys out of the market? Is that what's happening in relation to Paizo? Do we need to decide between a bucket of vanilla or a hundred teaspoons of exotic flavours?

You may be right, AllisterH. I can't claim to be an expert on pirated PDFs. Staffan/TwinBahamut raise an issue which I think is central: does the D&D community want its game produced by a corporate giant with full marketing departments but a ruthless and impersonal business ethic, or by...

With respect, I can't imagine where you formed that idea. It certainly can't have been by examining pirated PDFs. More than a few gamers download books after they've bought them simply because the illegal editions are searchable and much, much better indexed than the originals.

I agree 100%.

Which one do you tap for green mana at the start of a turn? The one that involves you not threadcrapping with edition war nonsense, please. Thanks! ~ PCat