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Question -- Would a position such as this also rub you the wrong way? [/LEFT]

Voted for for the first option, although that's not really right either. For me, 3.5 was a bridge too far (I'd need a step back to 3.0 sensibilities to be happy.) And that being said, this poll is going to go the same as all things 4E on ENWorld. 60% like it, 40% don't.

That's definitely my top theory, that the OGL issue had a strong influence on the design. I've said that before. I sort of agree with KM's statement of the business case: I think WOTC's late-era reaction to the OGL was out of proportion to the actual business effect of it. In particular, the...

Edit: Misunderstood context.

That's what I do in my Diminutive d20 rules (level limit 12). Only use the first 4 dragon age categories, the 4th is now called "Ancient". Bump the sizes up one place (which I believe should have been done in core 3E anyway).

I only got "Orcs of Thar" and really liked it, sometimes still mine it for ideas. (a) First cohesive rules for PC monsters. (b) Very nice Underdark-y campaign setting/map. (c) Pretty cool strategic wargame. (d) Nice use of Paranoia-like humor and artwork. (e) Handy pull-out mini-manual on life...

Good catch -- I searched the whole thread twice and couldn't find that. Nontheless, you notice I do in fact never mention PHB's (1E or otherwise) in this entire thread; that you made up. If you look back at my first post I'm only using the "2E era" as shorthand for the time period of the...

That's in almost every rulebook pre-3E. :) 1E UA p. 109. 2E DMG ch. 9. An expansion on Dragon subdual from OD&D Vol. 2. 1E MM p. 30. With slight variation.

I never mentioned 1E or PHB's in this entire thread.

That's actually a very elegant solution to come out of this thread.

Agreed.

I'm just trying to establish what's in 4E, without an edition war. You agree that the above is new to 4E, I assume?

Here's my answer: I honestly don't know. I'm curious about that, too. There's some stuff in life that's easy to call, but that's not one of them. My current prediction is for D&D to cease publication in 2019. So that's a ways off, but I'm also interested in what happens afterwards. I don't...

Thanks for quoting that. So it seems like "resolve" is newly added in 4E, do you agree with that? (It's not in 1E or 3E from my lookup.) You say "should arguably" and "you could add a clause" and "you could find some way to narrate", etc. But you agree that's not part of RAW pre-4E, right?

Uh, what? I think you'll to specify a specific edition, book, and page, because those words don't synch up together.

We certainly did (and still do). I would never have thought not to -- actually, it looked like an enormous "gimme" when the prior alternative (OD&D, Basic, etc.) was to be simply dead at 0 hp.

Does everyone agree with this? (Does it say explicitly this in the 4E books?) It seems like I see a lot of 4E players saying that hp represent anything you like -- possibly disassociated from all physical injury, possibly reduced by Intimidate checks, etc. I suppose that could be a poll question.

Charles, thanks for the input. It's quite appreciated.

Revisionist history.

For those who played 1E AD&D with Unearthed Arcana, I'm wondering what the overall opinion is. Yea or Nay?