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Well, you also have to contend with this though: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20080522b Flat out states that that is a 6th level challenge. Gives DC of 22 for primary skills. Now if you look at the chart on page 42 of the DMG, there is no 22 in the 4th-6th row, but there is a 17...

I think the problem that most people here have with that example is that 4e wasn't supposed to have save or die anymore. And the one instance where it does crop back up is in a freaking ritual that is supposed to cure someone.

Well, that's part of the problem right there. Confusing terminology. When you call the only means of replacing lost HP other than rest things like Cure Wounds and Healing Potions people are bound to be led to think that way. I mean they're called HIT points for crying out loud. You have to...

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You know, hardness rules aren't just for hacking at walls with swords. They could use magical attacks as well, you know? You even seemed to point it out. And, actually, given things hardness flat out prevents characters from hacking at walls with swords effectively while providing a means to...

Gee, so sorry that I mispelled a made up proper known from a fantasy game. I never used them in my games before, now their in the corps PHB, give me a brake. Obviously, I thought it was spelt one way, when in realty it wasn't. I blame Tolkein* and the "Worst Race" pole on hear, why don't you...

Awesome, I hope they include this. If not I'll do it myself. I knew it had something to do with zeros because of the errors that were coming up but I didn't feel like bothering with it. Also, I forgot to thank the original creators in my former post. It looked great even when it had the few...

"Say"? I thought they had their vocal chords forcibly removed.

You know, there are professional game designers and skilled mathematicians here, too. And just because something is easier for you to believe, doesn't make it the truth. I was going to cut you some slack, but by your own admission you don't even have the books and haven't even read the...

Have you ever heard a lawyer talk? What's the difference? ;)

Actually, I'd argue that in 3e multiclassing wasn't broken when using only the core rulebooks and enforcing the XP penalties as written in the rules. What broke it was people not imposing those penalties and the endless splat books with classes that allowed ridiculous/broken combinations. With...

I don't see your point. And I'm not that kind of DM, anyway. Also, as someone else said recently, the fact that you can house rule something doesn't mean that what you fixed wasn't broken in the first place. Obviously, I wouldn't allow this crap in my campaign.

If there's no contradiction then you can do this: Under the "Once per Day" heading it says that you have to wait at least 12 hours before resting again. So, at 12am a party rests for six hours, they don't need to set a watch because they have an Eldarin party member. They wake at 6am. They...

PHB, page 263. Extended Rest section says under the "No Strenuous Activity" heading that you don't have to sleep during an extended rest. Yet immediately below that under the "Sleeping and Waking Up" heading it says that you have to have slept at least six hours in the last 24 to get a benefit...

I'm sure you know this, especially considering your sig, but my comment was mentioned in jest. But before somebody comes in here saying that extended rest does not require sleep, blah blah blah. I know this. I labeled this as "Humor" for a reason. So, consider this a preemptive strike. "You...

Okay then, you do realize that the only other chart in the DMG with difficulty classes is the one specifically for skill checks, and it's got the +5 built in, right? The only two tables for DC in the DMG give the same values for skill checks, and these are the values which cause one of the...

Just a few quick questions here. The sunburst thread got me thinking. Why doesn't the Sleep spell heal those that fail the save? And shouldn't it damage Undead? Also, if you oversleep do you end up like 3.x characters that spend too long in the Positive Energy Plane? DM: Eldarin, you come...

Come to think of it, why doesn't the Sleep spell heal those that fail the save? And shouldn't it damage Undead? Also, if you oversleep do you end up like 3.x characters that spend too long in the Positive Energy Plane? DM: Eldarin, you come out of your trance and see a bright flash of light...

"Set the complexity based on how significant you want the challenge to be. If you expect it to carry the same weight as a combat encounter, a complexity of 5 makes sense." That's what the DMG has to say about what higher complexity represents. Also, higher complexity makes the challenges worth...

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