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    D&D General Fighting Law and Order

    Knowing it isnt, but policing breaches of it certainly is. Yes it is. In fact, directly telling someone to stop flashing their private parts in a restaurant is explicitly policing morality. Because (as DM) you have to make rulings based on alignment. So you have to care about it or make a...
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    I was being ironic and pointing out your hypocrisy actually. Lol. Luke Skywalker refusing to strike down his father strongly disagrees with this. And you ARE teaching. Players look to you as the DM (and to other players) for how to play the game, and for guidance. If you tell them 'X is not...
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    Why? Explain to me how the above is NOT teaching Sarah about the game or policing the morality of her stated actions (by refusing to even acknowledge them and refusing to let her perform them). Because sure as heck, Sarah leaves the table with no doubts about the social contract, or what's...
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    God of Gods Daddy DM!!! How dare you moral police me! That's not your job to tell me how to engage in the social contract of the table. You're interfering with my agency! All I wanted to do was murder the rest of the PCs and take their loot! In all seriousness, explain to me now how you doing...
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    You're not covering yourself in glory with these posts mate.
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    D&D General Fighting Law and Order

    Yeah. And that's the exact behavior the OP is concerned about and wishes to correct, and the exact behavior that Im talking about, and the exact behavior that I (as DM) correct when I see it. The stuff you first said 'almost never happens' and now are saying 'more or less happens in every...
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    I didnt say 'will be'. In fact I said 'It depends on the status, power, importance, and alignment of the victim and/or Lord. My game world is Faerun. Expect the ruler of even a small town of a thousand or so to have access to 3rd level spells (local Churches, including the rulers own faith, and...
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    No, it's not. Part of teaching the game, is enforcing the social construct. See my post above this one re Sarah (a new player) playing a LG character breaching the social contract, being unfaithful to her alignment, and acting like a jerk by seeking to murder the other PCs as they sleep...
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    You're teaching the game right there. The game goes beyond just the rules of how things interact; there are social norms, and a social contract as well. Example for @Vaalingrade Assume a group of 4 have been playing together for a year, playing a heroic campaign and working well together...
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    Yes. Teaching the game is one of the DMs primary responsibilities. It literally says so in the DMG.
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    D&D General Fighting Law and Order

    'The game' extends beyond knowing the rules. It includes not monopolizing table time and letting other players speak, not affecting other players play experience, not being a jerk, paying attention, giving roleplaying your best shot, working with the other players, instead of against them etc...
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    No, it's not. A Serf who has been wronged goes to the local Lord (or his delegate) and pleads his case. It's literally the Lords job to sort those things out. In exchange for the Lords protection, the Serf works his lands. That's the whole point of the Feudal system.
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    Then they wouldnt be Lords for long. It's literally the role of the Lord to investigate and bring the offenders to justice. Petitioners come to the Lord, complain, and the Lord sends forces after them. It goes something like this:
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    You're wholly wrong. Teaching the game is one of the DMs primary responsibilities, and that includes getting bad players to pull their heads in. If you dont like it, go disrupt someone elses game.
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    Then they wouldnt be Lords for long. It's literally the role of the Lord to investigate and bring the offenders to justice. From my own search: Dungeons & Dragons: What A Murder Hobo Is
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    Murder hobism dnd reddit - Google Search The above is a google search, with the terms 'Murder Hoboism, DnD, Reddit' with 87,000 hits. They're common.
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    Even assuming a medieval world of our own (and Faerun is not that world) do you think a bunch of Lordless wandering vagabonds could just enter a Saxon Barons keep, murder several of his guards, and that Baron would just shrug and do nothing? Now consider a magical world where that Baron has...
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    You're arguing that murder-hobo players looking to kill NPCs for trivial reasons is 'uncommon'? Dude, I've met hundreds of them in my lifetime, and I'd be shocked to meet someone who has never met one of these guys on an at least semi regular basis.
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    What I'm getting at here, is I am genuinely blown away by the amount of people claiming to be DMs and just letting that kind of thing (murder-hobism, argumentative players etc) and genuinely asking the question of 'how do I stop that sort of thing'. If you (and your players) are down with that...
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    D&D General Fighting Law and Order

    What? Illogical is literally defined as lacking a grounding in logic. I dont have the personal connections, alignment and resources of literally every NPC on the planet mapped out do I? Like I have repeatedly said, I make the decisions on what the NPC connected to the victim does based on...
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