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Good point. I would not. Well, post it and I'll be happy to contribute. Your intervention here was certainly helpful. My pleasure; I hope the arguments come in handy for you in future.

I'm finding the answers most interesting so far. I would like to ask the following question just to stir the pot more and possibly push discussion back to my focus at the outset of the thread: In most other games, when you ask the guy next to you for advice on your next move, you're still...

You try using three words at the same time and see how far it gets you. Would you have been happier if I had put the sentence in alphabetical order? I repeat: there is no hierarchy. While I do not think the rules are the sum total of the physics of the world, I consider them to contain an...

Well chime in there! I just posted it.

Towards the end of another thread, ThirdWizard, Crothian, wayne62682 and I got into an interesting discussion of metagaming. As a result, I thought I would start this thread to solicit other people's opinions about where they draw the line between gaming and metagaming. Here's how part of the...

I think you can get nearly everyone on ENWorld to agree that metagaming is bad. But that agreement comes, in large part, from the fact that there is absolutely no agreed-upon definition of what metagaming is. I consider metagaming to be bad, as evidenced by my position on collaboration over...

I think this should be more different amongst different magical schools. It seems to me that it is a poor solution for divine magic to be contingent on power internal to the caster given what it is supposed to represent. Arcane magic makes a tad more sense (especially for sorcerors) to be based...

My .sig contains a partial explanation of my handle. Fusang was the mythical country across the sea according to Chinese legend. According to legend, a group of Buddhist monks visited the land in the 6th century AD where they found cedar trees growing coffee beans and other interesting stuff...

Whereas I consider it to be gaming. Who says they cannot request advice or assistance from someone in doing so. Isn't it up to the player and the player alone as to which tools she uses to play her character? I happen to be someone who enjoys and appreciates getting advice from others on how I...

I'm not talking about knowledge that only the dead character had. I'm talking about a player making positive contributions when the players collectively make decisions based on the shared information of the party, or making positive contributions when a particular player is tongue-tied in an...

I'm staying away from your table. Why limit what people can comment on during a session? How on earth do you handle combat or strategic decisions in your games if people can only talk in character!?

I don't think this is a good representation of my views at all. My view is this: playing a character with any authenticity is really tough. Every aspect of the game should work to support and reinforce authentic role play: the rules, the story, the personality, etc. When people see the rules...

Not at all. I was just pointing that out as an example of gaming women exhibiting pride in being "one of the guys." I recall you mentioning it as disturbing and so I thought I'd use at as an illustration of how women in gaming sometimes work to make the hobby a less female-friendly space...

Remember that "all women are crazy except me" thread in the other place; that's what I was thinking of. I think this has a lot to do with it. But I have also played in my share of games that, although populated by adult professionals, were intensely masculine spaces. The social dynamic I'm...

That's what I come here to do. :) The only thing better than ENWorld when it comes to an esoteric argument about an agreed-upon text is when the Jehovah's Witnesses come to my door. That's most laudable; you see I mainly come to ENW for a good debating workout. I don't worry too much about that...

There's nothing exaggerated or unusual about one's character being incapacitated, dead or captured for most of a session. So I don't see where your exaggeration claim is coming from. I agree that this is a suboptimal outcome. But my God man, it's only three hours. Sometimes my players spend 3...

Seskis281, I would like to challenge some of your assumptions. You seem to believe that INT is the only attribute in D&D that measures brain function. The fact is that, if you look at what we now know about various types of intelligence, what our culture understands as mental capacity is spread...

If we want to look at this from a brainstorming perspective, I think we would be helped by asking some basic questions. Clearly, there are two aspects of women getting involved in gamer culture. The first is finding the subculture and its activities worthy of interest. The second is finding a...

I know what the situation involved. But I felt it was important to raise the thing that much more commonly leave you with no character to play for a significant portion of the evening. The argument that were being made about D&D as a game of "me me me now now now" sound a whole lot more silly...

I understood what you said Ken. I don't see how you have addressed my point at all. My point is this: it debases a perception skill's value when you allow people to discover the identical information without having to make the skill check at the required DC. What value is it for the rogue to...