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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Oh, we know; the sarcasm is dripping from your comments a mile away
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Yeah, but @Charlaquin is just being nitpicking at this point
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    And thee line you included WAS present in the very last UA8 before the PHB release, yet people complained because it made Hide the same as the Invisibility spell, so WotC removed it. SHOCKER!!!! This is the text from UA8:
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    There was no such clause in the 2014 Invisibility spell either. SHOCKER!!!!
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    D&D 5E (2024) Wrapping up first 2-20 2024 campaign this week, some of my thoughts

    Oh God, that's exactly this player I mentioned (mischievous Rogue).
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    In other words, you can't be targeted by sight unless the enemy has the ability to see you. Again, why are people complicating this? It's not rocket science, unless they just want it spelled out in the book because they are too literal-minded
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Oh no, there are some here definitely trolling or arguing in bad faith because this topic has been covered ad nauseum since the PHB released.
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    No line in the core books say that you can be seen with normal sight from the abracadabra spell since there is no Perception check involved, so this only applies to senses, spell and abilities that say they do. Please see my post above (#273). The Purple condition cannot define how you can be...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    We're all repeating the same arguments from way back when the 2024 PHB released, but here we go again! Rules say what they do, so for those that are arguing that nothing in the condition or the spell says that you cannot be seen, I will point you to post #231. Basically, normal sight is not...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    You realize that you continue going in circles right? It has been explained multiple times that the Invisible condition is a set of benefits and that it's how you gain it that determines how it ends. Hide is a physical act of you staying out of sight and this is backed by the stealth skill; it...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Only if the target has a sense that allows them to see through the Invisible condition. Normal sight is not defined in the rules, so it follows the natural language definition...meaning it can't see someone with the condition granted by the spell since the rules don't state it can
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    I edited my previous response, but I'll reiterate: if you're doing a stealth check--defined in the rules as moving quietly and hiding behind things--then that means that you can be SEEN by normal sight. You don't roll for stealth with the invisibility spell, so that tells me magic is making you...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Easy; Hide is a physical act of a PC using the environment to remain outside a creature's sight. Hide tells you to roll a stealth (Dexterity) check, defined as: "Escape notice by moving quietly and hiding behind things", which is then used as the DC for Perception (using all your senses, normal...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    The rules only list four special senses: Blindsight: within it's range, you can see something that has the Invisible condition without relying on physical sight Truesight: You see creatures and objects that have the Invisible condition. Tremorsense: can technically let you know where a creature...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    You only need a special sense to break the Invisible condition from the Invisibility spell, not for the Hide action. I assume the other poster just cannot or refuses to separate the two Technically, Tremorsense can break through the Invisible condition from Hide due to how it works, but this is...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    This is what Hide says: On a successful check, you have the Invisible condition. Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom (Perception) check. As for Search, here is what it says: You're still taking the Search action outside combat, but there...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Search is really a player-facing combat action specific for conducting an Active Perception check, but the Hide rules only say to do a Perception check, and the DM can use Passive Perception instead to speed up combat. However, outside of combat the DM can just call for a PC to do a Perception...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Wrapping up first 2-20 2024 campaign this week, some of my thoughts

    Oh, we're pretty sure the guy is fudging rolls a few times per session, but we can't prove it since we play online. At this point, it's become a meme at this table. And that's exactly what I mean by "by any means": making min-max PCs with as much advantages as possible by stepping on other...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

    Line of sight is in the 2024 DMG (p.45) as quoted on page 7 of this thread, which btw were also in the DMG back in 2014 (p.251). The definition is the same in both books. Line of sight was never a PHB thing. Also, depends on the situation if 3/4 cover breaks line of sight; this is a DM's call...
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