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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    Fighter: We have been in this dungeon for 6 days and moved 40 feet. Rogue: I was only planning to be out for a week, I am running out of food. Cleric: I don't know about you guys, but I say we leave him here. Rogue: Good idea, we can leave Howard the kobold torchbearer with him. Wizard: Yep, I...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    Yeah, but then the party has to rest for 2 days after every fight, so your character can do whatever it is he does. I'll bet the other players love that.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    Yeah, I am getting this vibe as well. If he goes around trying to one shot all of the other party members, I am sure he is a real joy to play the game with.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    So what? I had 400+ hours of play with the character, he was fun and interesting, he had friends who were also fun and interesting and the only time he was ever involved in PvP was when he and the Paladin got drunk and had argument about which of us was the better fighter. We slugged it out in...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    And really boring to play in a real game.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    These builds have nothing to do with real games, these builds are purely for a restricted PvP sandbox, this is more like playing Monopoly than it is D&D. Making a 20th level character under perfect conditions is very different from playing a character from 1st to 20th. I don't know about anyone...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    This what what I was trying to get across the other day, most of these designs were just silly edge lord drek. This guy has a bit of pizzazz, he could not take over the world, but a wizard serial killer is a cool idea. He wouldn't go near the big names, too high profile and way too dangerious...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    I know, I just want to make his life even more miserable and pathetic than it already is, let him know there are other opponents out there just as dangerous as wizards.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    Ah screw it, the assassin probably cannot one shot the sorcerer, because "Plot", however he can one shot the MMD , call it a warning to make sure you pay your protection money, or else. Edit: Even if she does not die, sprouting a crossbow bolt in the middle of one of his rallies will be message...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    So question about Stealth, if he is onstage giving a speech, even telepathically, how stealthy can he realistically be? I suppose he could be telepathically giving his speech from his closet, but that seems silly.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    So if this was the case it would be unlikely he would have Wall of Force or similar spell protecting him from physical damage, he is simply invisible and/or stealthed?
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    He does have to come out and give is big rallies to stir up hate and bigotry against wizards. I wonder how hard it would be for a 20th level Assassin to one shot him while he is on stage?
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    Another interesting thought is, wizards will play the long game, especially an elf who has nothing better to do for the next 600 years. For instance when discussing a 20th level Illusionist with the Charlatan background, reality is pretty much what he says it is. Illusions combined with a high...
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    D&D General What do you allow in your games? (NSFW)

    I don't think I or any DM I have played under, have specifically banned any of these things from a game, having said that, very few of them have ever come up. Murder, slavery, bigotry and thievery are about the only ones, but murder and thievery are the only ones to come up in the last 20 years...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    It is actually very difficult to force a Player Character to do something the player does not want him to do, short of a Dominate Person Spell and that is concentration, so you can only do it to one PC at a time. Persuasion is not Dominate Person, it is not instantaneous and would require...
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    LOL, I take it you have never seen a group of murder hobos go at it.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    Inside your closed sandbox yes, but in a real campaign world with real characters and a neutral DM, he would be just another boss monster to be killed and stripped of his valuables.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    So we agree that outside your sandbox, your build would not be viable.
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    D&D 5E (2014) 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

    So accept the challenge or go home.
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