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[Eric's grandma]What's that you said, dear? Is that one of those new breeds of show dogs?[/Eric's grandma] ;) :D

This may be a useful resource, at least to figure out the creature availability: Monster Geographica: Underground Given Expeditious Retreat Press's thoroughness in other publications, I wouldn't be surprised if it did a decent job at covering the "intro to cavology" apect as well, but AFAIK...

The main problem I have with this setup is that it prevents the dragon from using the water passage from 8 through 10 to 6. Hmm... maybe the dragon just likes toying with the halfling? In reality, the opening between 10 and 8 is large enough that the dragon could snatch him at any moment for a...

Might be easier to decide how much natural armor it should get, and work from there. Large giants have +8 or +9 natural armor (with the exception of the Stone giant: +11) The Huge Cloud and Storm giants have +12 natural, but "Cloud" and "Storm" doesn't exactly inspire thoughts of natural armor...

You may also want to make a side view to illustrate the alitude changes, ceiling height (important for flight!), water levels, etc. Have a look at some depictions of real-world cave complexes.

If you suck at tactics yourself, figure out which of your fellow players is best at tactics, and always back that one. If you can't even figure out who of your fellow players actually has some tactical sense, ask your DM! Most likely, *he* will know (especially if said player keeps guessing the...

Another option: perhaps the water flows 6 -> 10 -> 8, and then curves back around underground to finally empty out at the bottom of the chasm. That would allow the dragon to swim down from 8 to the bottom of the chasm, then fly up and catch any adventurers in the rear...

der_kluge - did you settle on 5' or 10' squares? This is crucial to know what sort of potential for flight these dragons would have in the various rooms...

Based on the number of color gradations left and right of room 7, it seems like the water in 8 is quite a bit lower than in 6. So logically, the water would be flowing 6 -> 10 -> 8, with some sort of inflow in 6, and an outflow in 8 (every dragon lair needs some sort of backdoor...). Also, the...

All these giants, and not one giant blue ox to be found in the MM... :(

By the way, lump me in with the "this was a really poorly phrased poll" crowd. The only way I could answer it was by imposing my own personal set of restrictions to it (i.e. focus on D&D specifically). At the very least it should specify *fantasy* RPGs...

And I assume the party didn't have any Wizards, Sorcerors, Clerics or Druids? ;) :p Mind you, I fully agree that it's *possible* to run D&D at a lower level of magic than its default. I just think the default is too high, and no attempt was made in the design of the game to facilitate adjusting...

In D&D... YES! Sorry... pet peeve. ;)

In general, metabolic rate scales roughly as the 3/4 power of mass (Kleiber's law, see also here and here). So for our 3.125 lb Frost Giant, his metabolism would be only 7.9 times higher than a 200 lb human, or requiring 11,788 calories per day (12 triple meat whataburgers). The 5,400 lb Cloud...

PS: Now that Trainz has bowed out... is there any part of the behind-the-scenes work that you'd like more help with? Any way we can make your job easier (and thereby perhaps entice you to start CD 05 a bit sooner than you might otherwise)?

Nah, I'll gladly wait until you're ready to take it up as a real CD 05. I was only suggesting a potentially different way of organizing it: organization-first, instead of map-first. I don't have anything invested in the organization I posted above, that was just an example off the top of my...

Almost forgot: I used to play the sax too. Or at least, I *tried* to. I love the instrument, but I'm sadly lacking in talent. Looks gorgeous on my wall though. Plus as an engineer, I really appreciate a well made piece of machinery like that.

We actually had a discussion about this very topic over in General Monster Talk not too long ago. I think it got lost in The Great Wipe of 2006, but IIRC the general consensus was that, yeah, WotC should have made the Giants larger in the first place. These are definitely *not* your traditional...

Hey Mark - while you guys are wrangling over a map, perhaps the rest of us could start thinking about encounters? For example, instead of splitting up the Dungeon into encounter *areas* on a map, you could split it as follows: 1. dragon 2. primary dragon minion 3. secondary dragon minion 4...

Hmm... think I've also heard of horse therapy being used for certain psychologic problems. Autism, perhaps?