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My concern is that either way, combat is only lasting 1 round. While I hate d20 combat of 200 rounds and 6 full gamings sessions of rolling dice to complete just 1 combat...I want it to last more than a round. With only 1d6 HP, and a level 20 guy having only about 80 HP, but doing 100+/rd, it...

I think that's what the wiki is for in greywulf's sig...it has all the things that spring out of these discussions.

I didn't say you WERE creating another system. But thus far, I've seen 4 m20's out there. Not including Quick20 that seems to have been developed seperately. Each one has little minor differences that make it not the same, but it's based on the same engine. What I'd like to see is just the very...

I agree here. There's no reason to keep the numbers...they're just there to generate the stat bonus anyways. A +1 is a +1, if it's 11, 12, 13, 26, 248, whatever the number used to generate what a +1 means. Hehe...shorten it to MIN then. It's not just INT, it's WIS, WILL, CHA, and just about...

I think that goes right along with my post above about why anyone would even want to play a fighter type. Maybe some sort of balancing (although larger file size) would be to have a BAB progression for each class. Phys - Climb, Jump, Swim Communication - Gather info, basic interrogation I...

That sounds like quite an interesting setting you have there. Reminds me a little of Steampunk Musha, mixed with deadlands.

Right. So if you're not going to get near 20th level, and the wizard has the same bab (within +2) of the fighter...why be the fighter? I don't see the benefit at all. At least in full d20 you get lots of feats AND the full BAB progression to keep pace with the wizard. Considering that AC and...

I don't remember back in previous posts, but has anyone checked the balance of the classes? Seems like since everyone gets the same relative BAB (level) except the fighter which only gets +5 more over 20 levels, and same hit points, is there a reason NOT to be a wizard outside the ability to...

Maybe I'd consider letting each roll for surprise, allowing a reflex action for those that make it, and the rest of those that failed are still stuck waiting. That makes for some cinematic coolness when the weaker PC fails surprise, and the quicker PC has to jump in front/mow down the bad guy...

Definately some good logic there. Maybe instead of rolling init, the surprising side auto-gets initiative for the first round (or at least a healthy bonus to init to give them a better shot at going twice). If you don't get to go twice in a row, it's really not surprise at all, unless you use...

I have not yet had the experience to fully delve into m20, but I would certainly do it if I had. I am more interested in becoming a bigger part of m20, which would make a review a bit jaded. :)

I guess as a follow up - yes, one group could completely decimate the other group if that was the case. The DM played the bad guys pretty fair - they would gang up a little, but try to spread out the damage fairly, or he'd just roll for random targets. But, if everyone got to go in the round, no...

Well, we were young and stupid. But then again, it was a fun role playing game and not a full on tactical battle. No squares, no grid, no minis, no map. Just the DM saying - you bust in the door and the goblins are about 30' off to your left. There were no movement squares either...you could...

I've played D&D off and on since the late 80s, and rycanada states it exactly how we played it all the way up to 3e. We used a simple d10 roll, PCs vs bad guys, winner got to go first. It stayed that way the duration of the combat. Anyone who joined the combat late automatically went last...

Vig, you know I love you man, but I can't believe I see you throwing straw man tactics. A watermark is nowhere NEAR similar to a door lock. Both are there to protect from theft, but the door lock is so much more. Nobody has ever been killed (as far as I know) because someone broke through the...

Guess I'll just have to wait then. I look forward to seeing it. Thus far I haven't been 100% satisfied with any of the (now multiple) simplified d20 systems. Maybe between all of them I can cobble together something workable for me.

where is this rank20 again?

I'm looking for the quick NPC stat-up rules for d20 modern that are loosely based on spycraft. I've gone page by page back as far as a year, and I just can't seem to see it. If you find it, please link to it for me. :) If anyone downloaded it, please link it here, or email to me - my username @...

eyebeams, it looks like it's designed straight up for fantasy - can it do modern?

I like this idea more and more. Anyone think of ditching the multiple dice and MicroTrue 20 it up? Heck, the game would be even better if it was so small AND only needed one d20 to play.