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I'm gonna say this in Jordan's defense. I think, like Martin, they did envision their respective series' as trilogies. But after writing the first few books, I think both realized that they have a hell of a lot of story to tell. So, increasing the books is not NECESSARILY a problem. Now, GRRM...

Good list, Assenpfeffer....though I can't believe Leiber's not feeling the love today. Some of the stories set in the theives guild of Lankhmar are my favorite! I share your wariness about the length of Martin's series, especially after getting torched - like I did - on Jordan. I would be...

And I'll respectfully disagree with that assessment. Different writing styles and very different stories. Jordan has built a wonderful fantasy world in a fairly traditional sense that, sadly, he has no idea how to end. His characters have fallen, sadly, into cliche. While that's not necessarily...

Re: Re: (ASoI&F - spoilers) Why the hatred for Stannis Baratheon? http://pub26.ezboard.com/basoiaf There you go. :)

Partially right about him not knowing how to make people respect and love him. The scene with the peach was a private conversation with really his only true friend. The problem is, how can he make people respect and love him if he isn't afforded his rightful chance to? Many times leaders need to...

Fair enough, and thanks for participating and clarifying, loxmyth. :) I'll say this about the one point - Stannis really didn't know Ned Stark. It's easy for us to say in hindsight that he would have supported Stannis because we know he DID support Stannis after finding it out. But there was no...

I think all of that is pretty much spot-on. I feel that deep down he is trying to do the most good for the most people, too. And you're probably right about his reign being a short but profitable one. I never said Stannis would be a great king, but he at least deserves the chance.

Stannis converted from the 7 Gods because Melisandre convinced him he is Azar-???? reborn. Again, in his view, she’s never been wrong. I disagree that it’s a “personal” thing with him. You say he spends too much time whining, but he’s a cautious man – not likely to make a reckless charge in. He...

Jackson said in the extended DVD commentary that Sauron was a huge problem for them. What do you do when your main villain is not really there? Hence, they can really only use the "Eye" and remain true to the trilogy.

See, I kind of disagree with that. He feels he was robbed of the throne that was rightfully his. Turns out, he's right. Ned Stark thought so, the laws of succession would seem to think so, too. After that, when he got hooked up with Melisandre, he then believes (for better or worse) that he...

I have visited the "Ring of Ice and Fire" boards, dedicated to Martin's series, and I've noticed a common theme. Many of the members over there simply DESPISE the character of Stannis Baratheon. Absolutely hate him. They immediately point out that he was willing to sacrafice his own blood - his...

I think Daenerys becomes more and more of a hero as the series goes on, as does Jon Snow. When I first read GoT, I couldn't wait to blow past Daenerys' chapters. By the end of book 3, I looked forward to her chapters the most. She has had a very hard life, but still is what I would term "good"...

Hated all anime....until my son started watching Dragonball and DBZ. Me and my wife were determined to at least try to understand the show a little. And you know what, they're pretty good shows. They don't take themselves too seriously - which is what turned me off to alot of the anime I watched...

Thanks Eosin. Now that you say it, and thinking back to the story, it sounds like that's correct. Still, no "Hedge Knight" - no "Song of Ice and Fire". ;) What a wonderful world, though, that Martin has created, eh? The characters that are many levels deep. It is a crime that no one has at...

Similar experience with Thomas Covenant series by Donaldson. 4 times I've tried, and 4 times I've failed.

Can you elaborate? I have read the series and am starting to reread it in anticipation of AFfC. I've also read The Hedge Knight, but the implications are eluding me. Excuse my brain fart....:)

I also agree. Brad Dourif is a brilliant character actor, too. Just as McKellan was perfectly cast as Gandalf, so to was Dourif as Wormtongue. And as to why would anyone trust someone named "wormtongue"...that may not be the only reason he's called that, if you know what I mean. ;)

Beat me to it, Tom. "Hold", the poor man's "save or die" spell - but oftentimes just as effective.

Man, there should be some kind of fine system in place for even mentioning Jordan in the same sentence as Tolkien. Mind you, I feel that Martin's "Ice and Fire" is every bit as good as Tolkien's LotR, but that's as far as I'll go. There are points for being (more or less) the first, and Tolkien...

Fafrhd & Grey Mouser - Leiber Elric/Eternal Champion - Moorecock James T. Kirk Darth Vader Sam Gamgee Gandalf the Grey/White Tyrion Lannister - Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" Muaddib - Herbert Ripley ("Alien" et al.) Conan - Howard