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Steel, just pack it up man. You are legitimately wasting your time here. These guys have an axe to grind with Paizo and Pathfinder and there's nothing that you can show or tell them that will promote a civil discourse on this topic. Considering that the thread is ABOUT the BB theyre just going...

Stands Up APPLAUSE

OKAY.

Agreed.

You are aware that Natalie Portman is also an Academy Award Winning Actress? IIRC for BLACK SWAN back in 2011-12? She's also won multiple Golden Globes as in two, for Closer and the other again for Black Swan. I just find it odd to claim that she's not a great actress and cite Jeremy Irons'...

I found D&D in 1983. I found anime (and I mean unsubbed, untranslated anime as well as Robotech) in 1985. I'm STILL into anime as I've never stopped loving a good shonen. I'm still into TTRPG's but no longer playing or running D&D. I've loved BOTH for 35+ years.

Okay I hear you and agree with you on that first part. I guess we all have very different thresholds for that. Personally I've always written things down or done pre calculations on my character sheet or cheat sheets as a GM so that I'm just adding two numbers at most. Even at the height of 3.5...

I started when I was 11-12 with a used version of the Moldvay box, moving to Advanced D&D not to soon afterwards. I'm 49 now.

It always amazes me when people have decided that basic math (addition and subtraction) is crunchy or complicated. I don't know if it makes me a snob to NOT want to play with people who fear basic math especially when most phones (even older flip phones) have a calculator on them. Again, maybe...

Hey that's fair. I feel the same way about 5E. Well maybe with a lot less venom but I came the to conclusion that 5E was definitely not for me. It's not a poorly designed or bad game. I've actually played games with systems/mechanics that I didn't care for. Most times a good GM can even make a...

You know, I stopped taking some of the stuff said in this thread seriously when someone said, with what I'm assuming is a straight face, that Considering that Paizo was crafting adventures for almost 6-7 years during 3 - 3.5, then another 10 years for Pathfinder 1st edition? I'd venture that...

I was comparing it to the PF and PF 2 beginners box and saying of the three that it was the weakest introductory product for the value. At NO POINT did I say it was a bad product. In fact I specifically say: "But yeah having actually owned all three of these boxes the D&D 5e starters box...

Are you talking about THIS STARTER SET. Because I had that starter set and wound up giving it away. Value and content wise it was kinda thin compared to both the PF and PF2 Beginners boxes. The D&D starter set felt like they just threw it together as a loss leader and relied on the brand name to...

Geez, I've been around since December 2002! Happy 20th Morrus!

I dont know if I consider it work but I only want to learn a new system if I'm actually going to get to run it or play it?

I've played every edition of Dungeons and Dragons except for 5E. I only played 4E enough to judge that I didn't care for it. My primary system for Fantasy is Pathfinder (1st and 2nd edition). I like the world and there are enough resources that I have at my disposal to support it. Forgotten...

I'm a HUGE fan of the MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE movies especially GHOST PROTOCOL, ROGUE NATION and FALLOUT. Id love to run or play in a modern game along those lines. I would never play in or run a game where LE were the primary protagonists. I'm actually more trusting (and I use the LOOSEST...

I live in grounded. I live in a world where the bad guys win ALL THE TIME. I live in a world where people are constantly looking backward to the comfort of conformity and not toward progress and the possibility of the fantastical. So the only question that I ask myself is: Why would I want to do...

The competition has a lower price point BEACAUSE it's of lower value. I bought that D&D starter set on a lark. It felt cheap and flimsy and in terms of content, it's anemic compared to the Pathfinder Beginners Box. But if the price is all that matters that's fair. I wound up giving it away to...

Flip Mat ($15) Dice ($10) The pawns separately are close to $20. compared to an AP pawn set that contains over 100 pawns just like the description for this set A full color 64 page adventure module is $23 so its conceivable that an 80 page book ALONE can be priced at $34. But let be...