D&D Movie/TV Michelle Rodriguez, Justice Smith Join D&D Movie

ShinHakkaider · Feb 9, 2021

Sacrosanct said:
See my post above. No one made the comparison between the two. I only cited Irons' achievements to prove he isn't two-bit, not that he's better than Portman. Two completely different topics.

OKAY.

doctorbadwolf · Feb 9, 2021

Olaf the Stout said:
I didn’t say they were flops, so please don’t put words in my mouth. Being in a movie that did well does not necessarily mean all their other movies will do well. Thora Birch was in American Beauty and Marlon Wayans was in Scary Movie. The first movie was still trash.

The first movie is good.

bedir than · Feb 9, 2021

Sacrosanct said:
Then I brought up how Irons isn't two bit like you claimed.

Commercially. His commercial success is nowhere near the lead role Pine has had in Star Trek - do you actually think who plays Captain Kirk doesn't matter? His commercial success is nowhere near Rodriguez, who is consistent supporting actress in a massive franchise.

His commercial and awards success is dwarfed by Portman, who you foolishly brought up as if Pine and Rodriguez' roles in Star Trek, Wonder Woman, Fast&Furious is as minor as Portman's in Star Wars

Sacrosanct · Feb 9, 2021

bedir than said:
Commercially. His commercial success is nowhere near the lead role Pine has had in Star Trek - do you actually think who plays Captain Kirk doesn't matter? His commercial success is nowhere near Rodriguez, who is consistent supporting actress in a massive franchise.

His commercial and awards success is dwarfed by Portman, who you foolishly brought up as if Pine and Rodriguez' roles in Star Trek, Wonder Woman, Fast&Furious is as minor as Portman's in Star Wars

I didn't foolishly bring her up. You were the one to bring up the argument that if an actor was part of a billion dollar franchise, that somehow means a company choosing them for a role later means they are gaining or benefitting from that financial success. THAT is what a foolish argument looks like. Pine had little or no impact to the DCU being a billion dollar franchise (which is the example you gave, not star trek, which is what I mentioned). And Rodriguez certainly isn't responsible for FF franchise being valuable. So saying they chose or otherwise will benefit from those actors because they were part of a valued franchise is simply silly unless you can show how each actor is the driving reason why the DCU and FF franchised are so valued.

That's the reason I brought up portman. Not to compare to Irons. But only to illustrate why the premise of your entire argument is flawed. No one is hiring portman in hopes to cash in on the success of the MCU and star wars.

Dire Bare · Feb 9, 2021

doctorbadwolf said:
The first movie is good.

The first D&D movie? Or the first Scary Movie? Scary Movie is hilarious and a genius film that birthed a genre of copycat films, beyond just the sequels in the Scary Movie franchise.

The first D&D movie? I wanted to like that movie soooo badly, and really, it's not as bad as a lot of fans kvetch, it's got some good and fun moments. It's watchable . . . . but good?

Tyler Do'Urden · Feb 9, 2021

Jeremy Irons was the only good part of the D&D movie. The man plays villains with such relish...

But I would put the movie from 20 years ago out of mind; it's not even relevant. It was by an untested young director with a relatively modest budget. These days, after the D&D boom of the last few years, things are likely to be different - we're looking at a movie with a director who knows what he's doing, a better cast, good screenwriters, 20 years of advance in visual effects, and I'm going to guess a budget at least four times higher (probably in the studio tentpole $150-200 million range - given that western fantasy is usually not a difficult sell in East Asia, I'd imagine they're expecting this is one they can make bank on in China. Wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro is considering a big overseas launch of D&D products to go with the movie. If they're not considering one - they should. The definitely should.)

I don't know if I'm terribly excited - but I'm cautiously optimistic that this could be pretty good.

Azzy · Feb 9, 2021

Oofta said:
Apparently there are going to be at least 2 more sequels. I can hardly wait ... ah who am I kidding. I can wait. I thought the first one was dumb, and I'm pretty lenient on movie logic. I was cheering for the guys in the mech suits at the end.

What? You didn't like Pocahontas in Space?

Oofta · Feb 9, 2021

Azzy said:
What? You didn't like Pocahontas in Space?

Well, a movie have something more than looking cool. I mean, Alien Covenant was even dumber but that doesn't mean much.

GreyLord · Feb 9, 2021

Alzrius said:
While in a chainmail bikini.

But how are you going to get 18 year old Judi Dench these days???

That said, I think Dench would have more class than do anything like that, even back then.

I have other fears about this movie, such as them trying to make it far more comedic in tone than taking it more seriously...aka...treating it more like the 1st D&D movie did regarding humor rather than a more serious take (and it doesn't have to be always serious, but perhaps something more akin to how marvel has done their movies than a comedy is done).

Azzy · Feb 9, 2021

Oofta said:
Well, a movie have something more than looking cool. I mean, Alien Covenant was even dumber but that doesn't mean much.

Yeah, the story was rather weak. And calling your fictionalized materian "unobtanium" was really dumb—that's the name of the trope for rare, exotic materials (like mithril, adamantine, adamantium, vibranium, etc.).