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more like the flumph jumped over the strumpet. foolish_mortals

I've seen alot of people say that old west end game version of star wars was one of their favorite games. Not sure why though. That star wars thing has suffered the same fate as dnd. foolish_mortals

I'm not sure but we might be talking about the same thing or something similar in this thread: http://www.enworld.org/forum/new-horizons-upcoming-edition-d-d/316342-monsters-have-been-degraded-over-time-need-fixing.html foolish_mortals

Hrm. The 2 old games I'm looking apparently haven't changed that much over the years. Pendragon being one. Call of Cthulhu supposedly is still pretty much the game it was 30 years ago. Given that I became used to the shock of changing dnd over the years that in turn was a shock to. It looks...

ok guys, I want people to think before they bought the 1rst Pathfinder book. Did they ever find it's length a negative in wanting to purchase it? For me who's planning on getting it in the future I have to buy it when there's time to digest it. That's why I thought about this, not slamming...

that would have been a great 4th edition cover. foolish_mortals

guys, Fox News already think this stuff is ruining America. I'm not kidding you at all. I've seen them put on one of their prominent shows that Star Wars is anti-american and rock and roll is evil. It's not hard to imagine what they think of dnd. The amazing thing is they always say their...

the game isn't worth playing if there isn't the chance of death in the game. Makes for a more exciting game knowing that your favorite PC could die in this session. Something to look forward to and think about. Instead of everyone getting round the table with happy silly smiles on their faces...

you have the right idea. We all know the MM is the monsters book. Their bid to take over the world. Why should they show players defeating them? That belongs in the players handbook. Death to the weak PCs! foolish_mortals

thanks for the info. This really made my head spin for a bit. Last I knew 5e is supposed to be mechanic agnostic. I don't know how there going to do that. foolish_mortals

I've never heard of a Deepspawn before. I'm going to have to look this up. Where'd he come from, Dragon, PFinder, 4E, 2E, 3E, etccc.... ? foolish_mortals

I can't believe you said that! This is supposed to be the game that unites them all. People who play 4E should be able to use their characters right next to Pathfinder characters. It's going to revolutionize the gaming community. foolish_mortals

I'd probably do 2. A drow witch wrestling with a mindflayer that has some of it's tentacles on her head. Maybe a dead party on the ground in front of them. That'd get things started right. foolish_mortals

When do you think a product is officially dead? Are any of the games really dead or are they just waiting for new content to be released? foolish_mortals

I have to agree that there needs to be consistency. Otherwise the game just becomes something new and unfamiliar with a clever Marketing ploy. I don't know where 4th sits on this spectrum. 3rd seems closer to keeping the goodies in place. foolish_mortals

I didn't have to think about it too much but I still think having fire elementals being 100% immune to fire and fire based attacks would be good. Not 0 immunity of 25 DR but total. Same with Efreeti. foolish_mortals

That's because 2nd edition material isn't on the market anymore to the extent of games that are still published. foolish_mortals

I don't know if they are going to ever release a second edition. From what I can tell their 1rst book keeps on selling well and people are happy with it. Which is... good. I'll probably get a copy some day after my next set of purchases. Not having a 2nd edition of PFinder makes it a more...

It has to be a horrible mistake! :eek: If it isn't I don't know what there thinking. foolish_mortals

I'd like a duo-alogy. 2 books. A Players book and a Monster book. Should be able to play with just the P.book. The monsters you should be able to make up on the fly and it should be easy. foolish_mortals