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I don't understand this statement at all. I mean, it's like you're assuming that the year in which I was born never changes. :p When asked, I'll admit that my mother will swear that I'm 33 (if she ever wants to visit again). When polled anonymously, I'll put the real number... which, um, is...

Highly flawed poll. Why is the option currently in place, alternating pronouns between paragraphs when no specific character is referenced, not listed? I quite like that approach & will save my vote for that on a corrected poll.

NOTE: I DO NOT HAVE PLAYTEST INFORMATION OR AN INVITATION! Player seeking to form or join a group interested in applying for 4e playtesting (whenever it begins). We could, of course, meet & game good old 3.5 until 4e playtesting is announced (& if we don't get in). As the note says, I have no...

If we're talking about PHB1, 8 classes isn't so much an 'assumption of logic' as a 'direct designer statement'. :) Of course, things might change between now & release, & there are always later books to add more classes.

We've been told all of that, but we've also been told that not every class mentioned so far will actually be in the first PHB. The only ones definitely stated for the first PHB are fighter, cleric, wizard, & rogue. For speculation, I'm continuing with my hypothesis (first put forth in the...

Good point, Umbran. /concedepoint

Update: Logan has clarified some of what of the designers have been saying in regards to specific class mentions. So -- monk is 'in' by their use of the term, just not necessarily 'in' the PHB1. Same for warlord, paladin, & ranger (the other specifically mentioned classes which were not...

At this point, & based on Logan's statement, I don't think we can take anything for granted beyond the classic 4 archetypes, no matter who said it where. They seem to be playing a bit fast & loose with their statements as far as what 'in' means -- i.e. they're talking about a class, but they...

Ugh, confusing use of terminology & ambiguous statements. Designer: x is in 4e! Designer posting later: It's in 4e, but I didn't say core! Even if I did, we're using the new definition of 'core' that doesn't match the definition used by many players & DMs, so you don't know if we mean old...

Confirmed.

I just had a new thought. What if the Warlord actually kills the barbarian & takes his stuff? My thinking: While fighter could certainly kill barbarian & take his stuff, this could just as easily have happened to monk or ranger -- but it didn't. There have been complaints about the barbarian...

WotC_Logan confirms that Monk is in on a post here on EN World. I'm... befuddled.

RFisher, thanks for your comments. That's exactly what I expect to see a lot of DMs do, & I think WotC is just completely out of sync with reality if they expect otherwise. It's for that reason that I really hope they will change their minds about keeping the Bard out of the PHB & putting it...

Wow. So we've already had confirmed in an interview with GamerZero the following classes: Fighter Paladin Cleric Warlord Wizard Ranger Rogue In another post here at EN World, WotC_Logan confirms: Monk There's our 8 classes in the PHB. I'm not entirely thrilled -- I can handle druid being...

! There's now a Whizite or Pediette? Woo-hoo! :D

So monks are in, warlords are added, & there are supposedly fewer classes than 3.x? What other than bards (grrrr! :] ) got axed?

Given that they've said (a WotC designer post in the bard thread) that WotC will consider PHB2, DMG2, etc. 'core', how will this affect your own outlook on the definition of 'core'? I think we're in for a big disjunction between what WotC envisions the word meaning, & how 'core-only' DMs &...

Considering that they don't accept PHB2 now? Yes, yes I do. Core-only for these guys means the first 3 books out of the edition gate -- ONLY. In fact, your joking conversation is pretty much exactly what I heard when I tried to get a feat from PHB2 allowed.

Do we need an archetype that relies on music for its abilities? Probably not. Do we need an archetype which serves as the jack-of-all-trades class? Possibly, judging from the multiple attempts that have been made at this role in 3.5, both as classes (bard, factotum) & PrCs (chameleon). Start...

QFT. I once had a 2nd level character take 22 javelin attacks before he could even blink. Twenty-two! Thankfully most missed, & he succeeded on his bluff check to fall to the ground 'dead' with 0 hp. :( Facing: I prey over the blood of a thousand sacrificial goats that this never comes back...