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    Lost our first 3E character last sunday...

    Yay dead elves! :D :D :D :D :D :D
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    Forrester's Against the Elves Campaign

    You might think so, but not really - chatting with the damn philosopher/sorcerer is much more trying on the nerves :D. I remember that during my first month of interpreting Dark Creeper, I was only able to translate about 60% of it. I'm a master at this point, of course. But for those of you...
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    AoO Cleave

    Oh, please. Like AoO/Cleave has ANY relation to what would happen in real life. According to these rules you monkeys are insisting on following to the letter, it wouldn't even have to be my buddy. It could be a summoned monster. It could be an ally of the Big Evil Bad Guy. It could be a...
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    AoO Cleave

    Jesus f'ing christ . . . sure, you're not a troll. That's what Bugaboo says all the time, too :). This isn't rocket science. Step away from the rules for a second -- you're arguing that if someone standing 5' to my right shoots a bow, he's putting my life in jeopardy if there's a Cleaver in...
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    Save or Die!

    As has been pointed out, game-balance-wise, save or die isn't a huge problem. It is a problem for those of us who like raise dead/resurrection to be rarer and more difficult. You know, to avoid that EverQuest feeling. And frankly, I think it's a problem from the storytelling point of view...
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    Save or Die!

    I remember that thread :). The problem with the ability-score solution is that it's a bookkeeping nightmare, especially for DMs. DMs already have to keep track of each baddie's HP and, to some extent, AC. Having to keep track of their Con, Str, and Dex on a constant basis would be a huge pain...
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    The Monk: What changes would you like to see?

    As long as a high-level monk is ineffective unless he's draped in hundreds of thousands of gold pieces worth of magic items, the 3E monk is going to suck. Monks shouldn't need magic items. Hell, monks shouldn't be able to even use them. Nope. They're that damn cool.
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    Save or Die!

    I agree. To combat this in my campaign, I've done two things: 1) No Greater Spell Focus, etc., to raise save DCs to ridiculous levels. 2) Rocks O' Fate! Basically, each player got two nifty little colored stones at the beginning of each *session*. One is a personal ROF, one goes in a party...
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    Forrester's Against the Elves Campaign

    Yeah, that was one long battle. Suspense? You want suspense? Hmph. Fine. *goes back to work in a huff*
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    I'll concede that this guy is a dick if you concede that this particular act really wasn't that munchkin at all :).
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    Following Numion's lead --- what are these "squares" you speak of? Seriously, though, how could she be 15 feet away? From what has been posted: 1) The sorcerer you loathe is it seems, medium size. Let's say he's 6' tall. 2) The evil enemy is (pressed up?) against the 18' cavern ceiling...
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    Odd that by your definition, about 85% of the posters commenting on the situation are "stupid". Care to address my question regarding how many 5' cubes a medium-sized character occupies?
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    AoO Cleave

    I'm trying to figure out if you're a troll, or just a complete and total :):):):):):):). By your definition, "foolishly" includes "drinking a potion" or "shooting a bow". By what bizarre logic should someone be able to take an extra swing at me just because there's a guy to my right shooting...
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    Well, actually, they do. Suppose a fighter is in the center of his 5' square. Technically, if he has 10' reach, he should not be able to hit anything farther away than the center of two squares away. However, that's not the way 3E works. By the rules, he can hit something standing twelve...
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    Players that force you to crimp your style.

    I wish my group were more "Ultra Navy Seal-Green Beret- Army Ranger trained combat team" . . . unfortunately, that's just not the case. And I have a hunch that they're going to pay for it pretty soon :). I don't feel that it cramps my style, though. Not yet.
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    Weeeeeelll . . . I suppose that depends on how many 5' CUBES a medium sized character takes up. Because, as has been pointed out, he's firing straight up at the ceiling. Certainly, a halfling sorcerer takes up one 5' cube with regard to reach. A medium-sized (say, 6' tall) creature, though . ...
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    Players that force you to crimp your style.

    So he's acting all stupid-brave. Precisely how is that crimping your style? Not sure I understand the problem.
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    Hmmm. Munchkinism I've seen . . . Well, there's the orcish barbarian that pretty much took out a calculator every time he had to make a decision about whether to Rage. There's the bard who insists that he can make a Diplomacy check as a standard action to make whoever he wants like him...
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    Irritating Munchkin tricks your Players try to argue.

    First of all, I probably would have allowed the burning hands to hit the guy on the ceiling. If it's an 18 foot ceiling, then the thing is probably only 16-17 feet away. And even if he's 18 feet away, damn, that's pretty damn close. I really don't think that counts as munchkinny. And trust me...
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    To the Moderators:

    No, but it has been awhile, hasn't it? Almost two years, come April 1st. Hmmm.
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