Search results

  1. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    Your right, and I've never said otherwise. It should however prevent people from claiming the exact oposite...that its all objective, and that a privileged frame of reference does exist. Those frameworks are just opinions. they may be popular ones, perhaps, but they are still opinions.
  2. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    Thats debateble. I've seen people "in the know" who say the oposite, or at least that "he said, she said" shouldnt be used *to* much because it becomes too reptitive. Yea, that might be a reasonble thing to say, although I think saying it has weak dialogue *in his opinion* would be even more...
  3. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    See, I have absolutely no problem with all of this, for one major reason. Because you are stating it as your opinion, how you feel, and your reaction to and assesment of the story. I dont even care if you say "it sucks" if you then procceed (as you have done) to say "in my opinion" or "for me"...
  4. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    I'm not saying people cant improve their skills in a given craft. I'm saying that just because a person doesnt like something, wether they have "credentials" or not, and/or just because a work of art or literature doesnt adhere to a certain set of rules or guidlines, wether layed down by...
  5. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    I dont see how, when speaking of a subjective issue, they can be anything other than the same. Especially since if you accept the idea that they are totally seperate, that means anyone who likes something that doesnt meet your standard of "quality" somehow has defective taste. I've never...
  6. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    Comfort isnt neccesarily a bad thing though. I like plots I can predict; I like ones that I cant as well. Now I admit that one could perceive some bias from me...I'm not really a plot person, as a writer or as a reader/watcher. Concept, message, mood and atomosphere are generally more...
  7. Merlion

    [October] What are you watching?

    The only thing I watch on actual broadcast television is Heroes. Its the only show I've seen since Angel ended thats held my interest enough to watch each week. Oh, and FLCL on Cartoon Network late saturday night/sunday morning, for however long it lasts.
  8. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    This is also a very important point. I do feel that some works have a greater degree of quality, in terms of craft, than others, but its important to weigh that in context, both the context of genre/style as you mention, and also in the context of purpose. What was this work meant to accomplish...
  9. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    Thank you Wombat! Actually thank you twice, once for inspiring me to re-read the October Country, and now for this post. You've basically hit my exact point. A work can be good or bad for each individual person that experiences it, but because it is good for some, it does have merit.
  10. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    You misunderstand. Again, I'm not talking about not pointing out the flaws. I'm talking about not doing it in an acidic, dismissive way. Avoiding words like "crap", "suck", "worthless" etc. Simply point out the flaws for what they are. Hmm. I dont claim to know your mind or intentions, but...
  11. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    Criticism is one thing. I believe some works are better or at least better-crafted than others (although even that is somewhat subjective as many different people may have different ideas about what is better), and criticism helps one to improve their abilities to the utmost. However, degrading...
  12. Merlion

    The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder

    Recent discussion about the book "Eragon" and its quality, or lack thereof have gotten me thinking about some things, and I'd like to start a general conversation about those things. Basically what sparked me off is this. On this site, and in critics reviews and various other places I...
  13. Merlion

    Anime set in a computer world

    It may not be exactly what your looking for, but I would recomend Serial Experiments Lain. It has many of the elements you speak of, besides which its just wonderful on general principles
  14. Merlion

    Honestly - What is Eragon?

    However, now that I'm well into the book (past 100 pages now), I'm curious to know what people think is so awful about it, since so far the only "complaint" I could see would be that the plot is borrowing heavily from Star Wars (again, not I thing I see as a negative, most stories borrow heavily...
  15. Merlion

    Honestly - What is Eragon?

    I dont really agree to disagree. And I'm not sure exactly what "worthwhile results" you mean....I think thats part of the problem, you guys are all a little to worried about the destination, when its the journey that matters, but whatever. The choice to continue or not is yours, but you havent...
  16. Merlion

    Honestly - What is Eragon?

    I dont see how you can think or say this. Last time I looked writing a book required a good deal of both. And even if it were possible to write a book without thought and effort...and I dont see how it could be...without being there when its written, how can you know for sure? Of course your...
  17. Merlion

    Honestly - What is Eragon?

    First off, I never said anything about sacrosanct. Any work a person puts time thought and effort into has a certain degree of inherent value, just by virtue of that thought and effort. And by virtue of the enjoyment it gives to those who enjoy it. Doesnt make it sacred. It just makes it...
  18. Merlion

    Honestly - What is Eragon?

    Your half right. The other half is because I consider it...improper....to degrade the product either, because wether you like it or not, and wether or not it meets the "expert standards" for being a masterpiece or whatever, it still has VALUE simply because of the effort and thought put into it...
  19. Merlion

    Honestly - What is Eragon?

    See this is my thing. I simply dont understand how people can DEGRADE something that another person has put thought, feeling, time and effort into. Not just dislike it, not critique it, not just state their opinion about it but DEGRADE and BELITTLE it.
  20. Merlion

    SPOILER WARNING: A thread about the Harry Potter books

    I dont know her intentions. Well apparently it looks now like she never even intended for it to be hinted out, however I almost wonder how she couldnt have. Some of the things are pretty obvious, especially given her fondness for wordplay and the like. Like the fact that he wasnt kept in the...
Top