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My statement is not a 'truism', since it is not 'true by definition'. My statement is not true of all hobbies. Moreover, your reply was a generalization based on a bad analogy, and a claim about 'hobbies in general', as well as a misunderstanding of my original point (which, I confess, may not...

Rubbish. The 'browse the book' feature only lets you look at certain chapters of the book in question (usually only the first 1-2 chapters). You can't get a decent overall feel of the product that way (at least I can't, and I am sure others prefer to look at the entire book as well). Enworld...

I have plenty of contact with younger gamers (at least at the University level, ages 18-22). There are indeed lots of young RPG players. But there are fewer than there were in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The fact that there are fewer young RPG players today doesn not mean that there are...

I will (and the ones I frequent are not 'terrible'). The FLGS provides an essential service: the ability to browse or 'read through' RPGs that you would not otherwise have encountered. They also provide a location to consult with other people about products. Don't sneer at the utility of...

The inability to win young customers is one factor. The inability to keep older players buying new products is also a factor -- viz. an 'impact' on long-term viability. That was my point. And it is an impact worth noting if the average age of your market is getting older (which is true of...

Rather than refuting my claim, you've just described the impact the phenomenon I described does have: older gamers don't buy (or buy less of) the new stuff. This might be fine for pop music -- that industry is entirely focused on the 15-30 demographic, and has been since its emergence. But the...

Around 5. ;)

I made the point earlier in this thread that RPGs are somewhat unique in that players never need a new product once they own the core rules. Many players never 'upgrade' to new editions, etc. Apparently there are large 'shadow communities' of gamers who play OOP RPGs (1e AD&D, RC D&D...

Also from that article: 'At the height of its popularity in the 1980s the game became a target for cultural conservatives.' (My emphasis.) and 'D&D's popularity began to wane in the early 1990s as the videogame boom began. "D&D never went away," says Liz Schuh, marketing director for Wizards...

I assume that you're joking, right? The estimates I've heard range around 1.7 million.

Well, I'm curious to see Castle Zagyg. I'd like to see the castle as written by the original creators (EGG and Rob Kuntz). Sure it will not be 100 percent identical to the original dungeon of 1972-74. But so what? Goodman Games' 'Blackmoor' is not identical to the original Arneson campaign...

It's not a case of 'lying'. The data from the 1980s is pretty sketchy. There are estimates that 4-5 million people were playing RPGs in the early-mid 1980s. There is no way that WotC would claim that that many people are playing D&D now. It seems obvious that the high point of RPGs was the...

There are two different accounts of the relation between DM and players underlying much of this discussion: (1.) Hobbesian Account. The game posits a limited amount of 'power' that must be divided in some way amongst the players and DMs. Some people think that it is great that 3e...

For many people this is not a secret. There are large numbers of people who play OOP RPGs -- they never bothered to 'upgrade' out of AD&D 1e, RC D&D, Runequest 2e, or whatever. For every new edition 'upgrade', many players are lost (i.e. the ones who are happy with the games they already play...

At least we will soon see the real 'Castle Greyhawk' -- now dubbed 'Castle Zagyg', from TLG. The piece of crap that is WG 7 deserves to be forgotten by all sane people. :cool:

You don't know what you're talking about here, Quas. Why do you make statements like this? It makes no sense. Is it really amusing to you? Good thing that you at least included the caveat. You should have also included the caveat: "I know rubbish about Gygax's stuff." :\

Um, no, they're not 'true words'. Rather, it's a silly generalization. Nothing more.

What a load of crap. :\ I'm very impressed with IH, Mike, but this is just complete rubbish. Stick to the games. ;)

Relative to 1982? It's in a coma. Relative to 2000? It's in a 'rough patch'. Whether the market is 'in decline' depends on the time scale involved.

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