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OK have run a lot of 4th now including a 20 hour session this weekend (home brew) and we still had a few issues with dying I would love to have WOTC answer for KotS that I will run later: A) ok when at 0 or less, you roll a 9 or less and you get a death "mark", three and your out. 10-19 you...

OK so half-elves get: Baseline stuff: +2 Chr, +2 any other stat +2 to insight and diplomacy Special Stuff 1) +1 to allies diplomacy in 10ft. 2) Choose an encounter power from any class other then your starting class and gain that power as an encounter power. 3) (specultative) gain access...

Ok so we cancel the skill bonus with the extra skill (a net -1 bonus, but ok), we gain +2 to Chr, and the at will and encounter cancel out. And the human is left with... A extra feat +1 to Fort +1 to Ref +1 to Will Not even close. Did I mention the human can take the multi-class feat with his...

What we know for sure. +2 Chr and possibly +2 to another stat (or +2 Con) +2 to insight and diplomacy +1 to allies diplo checks within 10ft. 1 at will from another class as an encounter power. That is it that we know of. Compared to: +2 to any stat trained skill of choice feat of choice...

Did no one check the racial stuff from the PHB look over?

Best, can you throw out the complete half-elf stats? +1 to allies diplo, 1 at will becomes encounter, The standard stat and skill bumps, is that it? Seems way under the other races. For example the human can get the same bonus, plus an extra at-will, extra skill, and extra +1 to all defenses...

Yepo, seen all that, what I'm interested in at this point is what they actually get instead of what they might be getting. :) Thanks, Ken

So the half-elves get: +2 to two stats (chr and ???) +2 to insight and diplomancy Specials +1 to allies diplomacy within 10ft An at-will from another class as an encounter. Anything else? Most races get 3-5 extra things beyond the stat boost and skill bonuses and that is only 2 for half-elves.

Half-Elves Get a chance to look at the full stats for half-elves? Just wondering. We know: +2 Chr, and possibly +something to another stat? +2 insight and diplomacy And specials: +1 to diplomacy to everyone within 10ft. Gain one at-will from another class. Most races get at least 3 cool...

Agreed, good work man. Ok so without reading the 1000 posts on how a minion dies to a punch, here is what I've been doing and it works pretty well. In NPC situations and where minions are 4 or more levels higher than the PC's, I grant them their consitution score + 1/2 level modifer in hit...

I forsee using the tables as general guidelines and not perfectly stick to them. The occassional higher level item (for purposes of giving them future quest situations for example) or additional wealth for doing something non-adventure oriented on the side is no big deal to me. But I get an...

Totally. Most important thing IMO. See ya, Ken

Anyone with KotS able to look into this real quick? Just want to know if standing provokes. I know crawling does. Thanks, Ken

Lets hope so, that is a pretty easy to see error, lets hope they can be a little better at editing for the final print stuff. It is only the 3rd article of the ones I have seen which makes me less, instead of more, interested in 4th. Predefined treasure, exactly written out like that? Not...

Thank you very much for coming in and giving it some love and considering everything, thanks for the reasonable timeframe for the response. I am happy to hear things will be corrected beofre I have to run the module! :) Also thanks Scott for the info on lay on hands! It will say a LOT to the...

Actually, this was not my intent (to find out the half-elf abilities). It was a denotation of the horrid editing for the books and how it will affect my game group. Have people coming over to play KotS before the books come out (been planned for months) and their first impressions will be...

What I've been looking for in the beginning when I made the post. Appearently, WOTC does not have the time to correct community perception on their premier product.

They have 4 trained skills and get one for being human (for the total of 5).

I believe now everyone will agree that it is most likely an error on the character sheet. A most silly error for your preview adventure! A pregen not correctly build! Very frustrating. See ya, Ken

This was the point of my original post (Along with starting a study on which avian group players most commonly spout the name of during play).