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Again (wishing I had my PHB here to quote). The only reference to immunities in PHB is p55 under the heading Keywords. I know this because I searched my PDF version thereof. There is only one sentence there about immunity and it has been quoted many times in this thread already. Immediately...

This is completely untrue. I didn't copy the entire text from the PHB and I don't have mine at work, but it said that damage is specifically divided among the existing keywords of the power. So if you have a power that does 30 fire/cold/psychic damage then it does 10 of each...apply immunities...

I submitted the following to CustServ: Based on the errata to keywords, resistance, and damage, immunity is no longer clearly defined. Pre-errata if you had a power that did multiple types of damage that damage was divided between the types (eg 30 fire/cold damage would be handled as 15 fire/15...

One other thought. All this is an unintended consequence of their errata. The original rule made where any damage only had one type. I'm at work and don't have my book, but the original rule said if you have a power with multiple types then you split the damage among the types. So if your...

You are correct in that you have not grasped my entire position. Starting from the assumption: Damage IS an "effect" This assumption is based on the "Damage Type(s)" listed on page 55. Damage by itself is not an effect unless it has a type as described in the rules (or it can be "untyped")...

Ok...having just read and reread PHB p55 and the errata (sorry I don't have a PHB3 so feel free to jump in if something there modifies what I've read) I still think the whole rule hinges on how you read "...does not protect you from the power's other effects." Here is my reasoning. That...

The concept of multiple attacks as your BAB increases has been replaced by abilities that just do more damage at higher levels. For example a level 15 Encounter power likely does more damage than a level 1 Encounter power. Also seen in the bump that at-wills get at level 21.

Notes: Eladrin Armor is chain only. Versatile Armor is chain or plate only. Important if you plan to upgrade.

First: What is textev? Second: Why would they need to include in the "rules" a truism? If I have an automobile, then I have a car. If I have infinite resistance then I have immunity. They are the same thing. Anyway, based on 4e's exception based design they'd have to specifically call out...

I built a level 14 Artful Dodger Halfling a few weeks ago with a 31 AC and +12 AC vs. OA for a total of 43 AC moving through melee. Throw in the feat Opportunity Knocks and I can wander anywhere in melee I want granting myself CA then take as many area powers as possible to hit multiple targets...

I think you missed my point Jester. I was trying to show how absurd the opposite position was through example. Their claim: If you have (for example) immunity to fire, vulnerability 10 to radiant, and take 10 points of fire/radiant damage, then their position is that you take no damage...

I got to thinking about this some more...what if you have immunity cold and vulnerability radiant and get hit with a power that does cold/radiant damage? How is that supposed to work where you're suddenly immune to a damage type to which you have a vulnerability.

I'm fairly sure this is a straw man argument. You're trying to prove your point via the negative when 4e is an exception based system. You take damage unless the rules tell you you don't take damage. What it really comes down to is how you want to read the phrase "the power's other effects"...

Mmmmmm.....Trolls are good with A1.

2nd this.

Only if you're not shifting.

I'm not sure that such a rule exists, but based on a lot of Halfling abilities I'd allow larger creatures to ignore the inability to move through enemy spaces or even share squares/spaces with smaller creatures. Two sizes larger here I think is key...so not Large, but Huge vs. Medium.

The problem here is that (and this applies to both sides) we are debating what someone else should do with THEIR money. I support Wizards' choice to do whatever they want with THEIR money and you don't. They chose to stop offering a product. I have to assume that because businesses like...

Yes. There will always be piracy. The underlying assumption to your claim however is that a company has no influence on how much piracy there will be. WotC is NOT selling PDFs. Some guy has to scan the book and you wind up with a lower quality product. Piracy level A. WotC IS selling...

Piracy options: 1) Do nothing (and watch piracy increase substantially) - "Here's a copy of my PDF...WotC won't do anything anyway if I share it with you..." 2) Sue From WotC's stand point both cost money. The only question is how much? Companies do this thing called a Cost/Benefit analysis...