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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    No at this point you're just gaslighting.
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    I didn't mean to say you did. But you would need to be making that claim for your all your points to be relevant in response to what I was saying. So as you're not saying that, then we've established that they're not relevant. Therefore, repeating them again with even more words accomplishes...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    If the D&D magic system is popular with many players, and D&D is also the most popular game in English speaking countries it does not follow logically that either the magic system is the reason that D&D is the most popular game, or that a D&D style magic system is an essential condition of being...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    You gave me no overall reason to change my mind. Being first mover is obviously important, perhaps the most important thing, but it's somewhat absurd to say the qualities of a particular game system play no part whatsover. If you want to argue that the magic system of D&D does not play any...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    Now I'm confused. You quoted my previuos post. Was it unclear? I don't really understand why you are repeating your first post in different words. I thought I had clarified that I wasn't having this particular argument? I mean even if my previous response was somehow unclear, it must be at...
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    D&D 5E (2014) What Level is the Wizard vs. the Fighter?

    One thing that everyone fails to value is the Fighters' ability to pick up Resilience. I would put having Resilience(Wisdom) up there with Great Weapon Fighter and Sentinel, things that hit Wisdom like Fear effects can make you unable to do your thing at all. (In fact it's one of the few...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    I think anti-nature was putting it the wrong way personally. It's more "pro-civilisation", albiet not necessarily unambiguously so. Anti-nature only really makes sense if we take a very pre-modern view as suggested above and see nature/wilderness as an opposition to civilisation. Edit: Even...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    Pre-modern ways of thinking: The forest and other natural wild places are uncivilised and chaotic and dark and scary. Early gaming: The forest is chaotic and evil because it's infested with chaos and evil. Later gaming: Chaos and evil corrupts the forest and we can use the power of nature to...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    Rangers had druidic abilities, but it's important to remember that there were important reasons not to think of them as partly druids. The big one is that Druids had to be True Neutral, while Rangers had to be good. I think we forget now how much alignment was a part of the worldbuilding, but...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    I think a lot of the practical models for early Rangers were colonial frontier fighters, just by nature of the way the way D&D was written. Texas Rangers cosplaying as Aragorn.
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    In terms of damage, I think Fighters are at least equal to casters now. In terms of effectiveness? I think that's questionable. It requires me as GM to not take advantage of the Fighter's many weaknesses. They are largely single target damage, so they are in trouble if have to face a group...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    I'm not saying the magic system alone explains D&Ds popularity. But it's not solely a sacred cow either. The lack of the specific play experience that D&D magic provides is one of the key reasons I've seen players find games that cover the same basic ground unsatisfying. Not all players...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    I think there's always been an element in the ranger of the caught between two worlds character. The hero who defends civilisation from the wild, because he is in part of the wild. You see elements of this in the Witcher character who is in part monster himself, and whose sympathies are often...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    Yes. The skill system always works better when you don't use it.
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    I find the guaranteed nature of the effects matter because of how much they contrast with skills in terms of flat D20 rolls. I see this in player planning, and in the kinds of plans players instinctively don't make in comparison to other games like Savage Worlds where the dice have more of a...
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    And the number of slots you get, which makes some of that powerful low level stuff like Disguise Self feel trivially cheap after a while.
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    D&D General Chris just said why I hate wizard/fighter dynamic

    The dirty secret of D&D is that almost every other game has recognised that the D&D magic system is fundamentally broken and just gives too much power to casters. Yet, the game continues to be popular not despite the fundamentally broken nature of it's magic but because of it. Players enjoy...
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    Oriental Adventures, was it really that racist?

    There's a whole lot of rules and elements that seem to assume that PCs will slot into society and the caste system and that doing so is one of the things that makes playing OA unique... ...but then they exclude a huge chunk of the character options from that.
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    Oriental Adventures, was it really that racist?

    Well yes. But it does make you wonder what they thought they were trying to do.
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    Oriental Adventures, was it really that racist?

    From memory there's some very odd design there. IIRC just about all of the non-human races are also outside of society. Which means the average party would not fit into the society at all.
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