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I must be weird, but I always thought that joining a group was voluntary. I didn’t realize that some people are forced to join a D&D group. Reminds me of the Mandatory Fun Days in the Army. :::shudder:::

Pfft. Powderpuff DM! Stoning to good for ‘em, eh?!

You keep saying that as if it is somehow profound. Yes, the group does not equal the DM. But the group does not also equal one player. It’s everyone at the table.

Oh… well… then that player really should be looking for a game that is more in line with their desires. They’ll have more fun that way.

Maybe I’m messing up the hypothetical. I’m running on about 3 hours of sleep. But I thought this was about a player joining a group and then wanting to play something that wasn’t a part of the original set up.

" But it does include the DM.

One man's treasure is another man's trash, I guess. I like what I've seen of the Bastion rules. :)

If you’re in San Antonio and looking for the Alternative Cover, Court of Gamers at 2824 Thousand Oaks Drive has about 16 copies left.

:::sigh::: Never mind.

Ah. The “we” was you and Mamba. Sorry. Misread that. I read the “we” as a more global “we.”

They are making the game that I want.

Just arrived in the mail today from WotC and DDB, so I haven’t had time to play it. BUT I really like the Art and Layout.

Slower does not necessarily mean slow. It just means slower. So, for example, a jet going from Mach 2 to Mach 1 is still fast. But it did slow down. Therefore: Looks like it would make my groups turns go slower.

I can't figure out if you're insulting me or sarcastically agreeing with me. Either way... it's super funny.

Dragon’s Milk Beer is awesome.

This. Oh. My. Gosh. THIS^ But my group loves it! And I do to, but sometimes... whew. Luckily, though, they are willing to take a break every once in a while and play something else. Currently, we do one shots of Alien. Well, it's not really one shots as it's a continuing campaign. Its more of...

I stopped engaging with the OP, even to tweak him over McDonalds, because it was clear he was saying whatever he thought would get a reaction, even if he had to say something factually inaccurate about DC20. But the other conversations have been riveting!

Probably. I really try not to question these things as they have far more expertise in these matters than I have.

As always, I have one house rule that I have used with 5e and (luckily) my group has adopted when one of them runs the game: Non-proficient Saving Throws gain proficiency bonus/2 rounded down. That way all the Saving Throws grow in power as the character progresses just like ye olden days.