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The problems arise when what is better for some people isn't better for others. Your two Black Lotus pictures are a good example. The newer one's text is more streamlined, sure, but the older one's text is easier to read and understand.

Yes, and in some cases that's what makes it work well: different subsystems were designed to best handle different things, rather than trying to shoehorn everything into a single unified mechanic that maybe doesn't always do the best job.

60 sessions is short by my standards. Any edition of D&D will do for this, as will (as others have noted) a fairly wide variety of other systems depending on the genre you want. For something significantly longer, 2e D&D (or 1e without giving xp for treasure) can do you for years, even...

You could have a base class that kind of builds in its own single subclass, such that the player doesn't have to bother choosing subclass but the relative degree of effectiveness etc. remains vaguely balanced against other class+subclass options.

So now I'm curious: in short form, what would your ideal D&D look like? What would its style be? How would it play at the table?

@GobHag is referring to me, I think, and is looking to promote a countering view to my own. Seems to me that's what a discussion forum is all about. :)

One of these days if we're ever in the same town you and I should sit down for a beer or three. That could be one fun chat! :)

Those bolded things could be the same, provided "general competence" maps to what an ordinary fit person is capable of without specialized training.

Sounds like a low-level MU to me. :) More seriously, you get those spells back daily and merely have to be judicious about how-when you use them. When (or if) they run out, you're on to plan B - at low levels you're still a halfway useful combatant, if unarmoured, and can still contribute in...

Sooooo...why does a new class need to support subclasses at all? There's no reason why one base class can't have five subclasses while another has zero, depending on the flexibility and scope of the base class.

I agree with this sentiment, but as the thread assumes there'll be another class and just wants our ideas on what it should be, that's how I answered.

You say this. But then you say this... ...and in so doing express a desire for another martial with spell-like abilities. Doesn't quite mesh, somehow. :) As for the low-magic healing question, 5e makes it easier than ever before to do this right now. You're going to fully recover every...

It wasn't until 2007 that the game I was in jumped (on the fly in mid-campaign!) from 3e to 3.5e; which means we'd have been in the cohort still playing original 3e a year after 3.5e came out.

Never played PF in either form. Closest I got was 3.5e. Casters IMO are the limited-use big-effect guys while martials are the go-all-day energizer bunnies. Giving casters go-all-day abilities takes away the main advantage and appeal of martials.

To balance that out it would seem there should be 4 Strength martials, 3 Dexterity martials, and 3 Constitution martials, or something like that. 10 casters vs 4 martials - no wonder martials keep getting the short end of the design stick.

Knight - heavy armour, chivalric code (in different variants), mounted proficiency, ability to defend others (some sort of one-person shield wall maybe), high consistent damage (as in, best of all classes) - a tank with real serious teeth. Not a Warlord - no healing of any kind, no baked-in...

For me 3.5e felt more like a massive errata dump, after seeing four years of people managing to break 3e in so many different and unexpected ways. Never really saw it as a cash grab as such. Exactly - they're relying on two things: 1 - that the player base will continue to turn over like it...

Yep - one of 5e's poorer ideas.

Relatively speaking, whetstones are dirt cheap in the game; thus when I dock them a flat amount for general upkeep now and then, having a bit of that go toward a new whetstone makes sense. I could simply add to the weapon's listed weight to cover those extra material, I suppose, but that might...

Other - something completely non-caster but NOT Warlord. Knight, maybe?