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Shrug. Okay. Agree to disagree. Innovation isn't binary, it's a matter of degree. Are the various D&D editions the most innovative games ever? No, of course not. But to argue they did not significantly innovate at all . . . well, again, agree to disagree. There's also some pretty innovative...

AD&D was a significant innovation from original D&D. 3rd Edition was a significant innovation from old school D&D. 4th Edition was a significant innovation from 3rd. To the point where cranky fans claimed it was not even D&D! And, I'd also argue that 5th Edition innovated significantly from...

Yes, more.

I love D&D! Both the game, the larger hobby, and the brand. I don't think that is misplaced, it's been an important part of my life since I was a kid in elementary a LONG time ago . . . But I do think that folks put too much onto the game and the company that publishes it, an entitlement for...

What WotC does is important for the hobby and for many fans. What WotC does doesn't have to determine what you are playing at your table. Both can be true. WotC does innovate within the current edition of the game, both before and after the 2024 revision. Other companies have innovated upon...

Well, innovation doesn't always mean "better", it just means "different". But on the balance, innovation is a good thing. Pushes design forward, even if not every change is a hit. But not everything needs to be innovative, or wildly innovative. D&D 2024 is an innovative game and makes changes...

Complete lack of innovation? Okay.

I sure do love folks with these types of toxic opinions. I hope the game tons of people love playing fails so that maybe I'll get a game I would like. Toxic. Thank goodness D&D 2024 is doing exceedingly well. Not so you don't maybe get a game you might like, but so that the folks who are...

Context matters. When doing a new adaptation of existing material and deciding how to cast the characters . . . is the character's ethnicity an important part of their story? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Not only that, but ethnicity swapping can be neutral or it can punch down. It blows...

Dude, you keep straying into ridiculous territory. Nobody is arguing that we should have different actors per episode or anything like that. Make some real arguments.

Yes. It is problematic. But you are missing the point. If the single character of Laurana is portrayed as white, ignoring all else . . . is that problematic? Not necessarily. It's not the individual character, but rather the entire cast. Is the majority of the cast white? Are the main...

Established lore? Inconsistent established lore? And even if it wasn't inconsistent, it if is problematic, why stick with it? Why is it so important that an adaptation change nothing about the original work? (Which of course, never happens. Adaptations ALWAYS make changes) 1980s fantasy is...

Okay, if the text is inconsistent . . . why is it so important that Laurana is white rather than woodland brown? Heck, even if Laurana was consistently described as white, I'd be fine with an actress of color being cast in the role.

Weiss and Hickman do not own or control Dragonlance. At all. The story, the characters, the world, the entire franchise is 100% owned by WotC. WotC does not need W&H's permission or approval for anything Dragonlance. Now, WotC realizes that involving W&H and having that be a positive, friendly...

Well . . . if they include the "Lost Chronicles" and other disparate elements of the story. If the script writers start with the original trilogy, add the Lost Chronicles trilogy, add in elements from the original game modules, and other bits and pieces added on over the decades . . . the...

Yes, but it's true. That every edition has outsold the one prior. You'd like more detail, but . . . does WotC owe us, the fans, specific numbers and breakdowns? I don't get the pushback on the investor and marketing speak in these types of threads. WotC is telling their investors the truth...

Why pick nits? Wheel of Time is a beloved and important fantasy franchise. Is it bigger than Narnia, Harry Potter, or other series? Who cares about the ranking?

I don't think that's what @Reynard meant. Yes, the books are still enjoyable! Otherwise, why adapt them? The books have problematic elements that don't hold up decades later, as does much of the fantasy written in the 80s and the D&D game itself. Mostly how the story deals with the various...

Eh . . . I mean, certainly, some fans were upset with the changes made to the story. And that's fair. But a majority of fans? There aren't numbers on that sort of thing, but . . . I'm a fan of the books, and I loved the TV series, changes and all. Some of the changes I noticed, I didn't care...

Did it though? Or did Wheel of Time alienate a LOUD portion of the fan base? The show certainly didn't perform well enough for Amazon to continue with it, sadly IMO. I was really enjoying it! I am hoping that this "news" means a live-action television adaptation of Chronicles, but . . . there...