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Have you had this happen in play? I mean, why would players propose a solution that they think isn't correct?

@soviet That's a very interesting post! I'm not an investigator, but I am an academic lawyer. And have also worked on mainstream epistemology to the Masters research level. Which is the perspective that I'm brining to bear: the fact that truth is (typically) mind-independent is an interesting...

And to you too! I've just recently started a thread about Mythic Bastionland, which includes an account of how I generated my hex map: Mythic Bastionland - initial impressions, and making a Realm

The epistemic situation of an investigator isn't changed by the fact that there is an "external" truth. They have no access to that truth other than by uncovering clues, finding patterns, forming conjectures, and doing their best to make sense of it all. Whereas the position of players in the...

Make sure to post your thoughts! I've got doubts that plugging gaps by using the methods of (say) Moldvay Basic will work well for the game. But presumably that's what at least some people are doing.

@Fenris-77 hasn't misrepresented the mechanics. Here are the posts that I've had in mind in making my posts about Brindlewood Bay: What actual investigations are you saying involve a predetermined puzzle set up by a GM? I mean, crossword puzzles are a bit like that, but outside of Agatha...

From my perspective, it's uncertainty around how non-Myth-related prep and non-Myth-related framing are meant to work. I can plug the gaps based on my experience with Burning Wheel, Torchbearer and Prince Valiant. I'm guessing OSR-types would plug them differently. But I think that also might...

If you make a Realm, please post to this thread about it!

I'm between 99% and 100% sure that @Fenris-77 knows how Brindlewood Bay works. The point that he (and I) are making is that the players don't just "come up with a theory and then roll the dice*. They play the game, thereby acquiring clues, which establish a pattern and conjectures and further...

In BitD, don't position and effect affect the size of the dice pool? In Mythic Bastionland, there is no difficulty adjustment - it's like the most basic form of RQ in that respect (roll stat or under on d20).

Another thought on this game - which obviously I've become temporarily obsessed by! - that also relates to some of the issues in the blog that @zakael19 linked to, and my own thoughts about "gaps". I've seen this game described as an OSR game. I'm not involved in the OSR space at all, and so my...

Thanks for the link to that blog! I agree with the blogger that there are some gaps in the rules, but actually don't think the Myths are in that category. I think there's enough in the Omens to get me going as a GM: I've only read the Omens for probably a dozen or so Myths (the ones I rolled...

Thanks! The last time I filled in a hex map it was for my Torchbearer 2e game, and was just transcribing from my GH maps so that I could make on more features (settlements, mostly) that I didn't want to write directly onto my original maps: Torchbearer 2e - actual play of this AWESOME system...

Right. This is my point, and the basis on which I expressed doubts about saying the solution is "created" rather than "discovered". Nor will I, given that I used the term! I certainly have this impression also. I don't agree that it's quibbling. Especially because "emergence" is discussed...

I've never played Brindlewood Bay, but I think that this post draws a contrast between "discovered" and "created" that is sharper than the reality of play. There are a lot of ways the "truth" of a RPG's fiction can be emergent rather than prepped - and my impression is that a degree of emergence...

For me, "system" is not primarily about the dice used or the rolling method. Core to system is how the GM frames scenes/presents situations to the players and how the GM establishes consequences. This quickly extends into things like how stakes are established, what the role of PC build and GM...

Here are the rules for the "action procedure": When the players take action the Referee works down this list: 1. Intent: What are you trying to do? 2. Leverage: What makes it possible? 3. Cost: Would it use a resource, cause Virtue Loss, or have a side-effect? 4. Risk: What's at risk? No risk...

As I said, this took a while but not forever. It's probably not the Realm I'd create if left to my own devices - and has far more water in it than my beloved Greyhawk! - but I'm sure it's playable, and departing from one's defaults is the point of random rolls. I'm hoping I met get to play...

Here is the full map of the Realm: