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There is a difference between dismissing you as a customer and losing you as a customer. They lost you with that change. Nobody sat there and said, "Let's get rid of this so Thomas Shey doesn't come here anymore. And then let's go out of business, because we suck at business." Humans are...

So you're inventing a personal definition for exclusion. Understood and noted for the future when you say you've been excluded from things.

You really need to look up what excluded means.

You can't spend a year or more running and playing a game you are excluded from.🤦‍♂️

Then you are excluded from everything disliked. I don't like fish, because the fish game engine(taste) excludes me. It's a nonsensical position. You are excluded if 1) you are refused access directly, or 2) if they design it in some way to specifically to exclude you. 4e did neither of...

It's pretty hard to argue against. Unless you are prevented from playing in some manner, you are not being excluded. You simply disliking changes is not enough. I didn't like 4e. I still don't like 4e. It's not that 4e didn't have some good stuff, because it did. It was because what I...

Sure you can. You choosing not to play =/= you being excluded. If you choose not to see a movie because it doesn't interest you, that doesn't translate into the theater denying you entry to see it.

Have you met humanity? Trying to get a consensus on just about anything is bloody useless to try. ;)

That doesn't follow. Just because I prefer things being done one way, doesn't mean that I can't also have fun with those things being done a different way. Their changes weren't intended to exclude anyone. They were just changes that they wanted to make.

Then let me give you an example. The 5e skill rules are a great example of the rules getting out of the way when reasonably possible. The skill rules state that you only roll when the outcome is in doubt AND failure is meaningful. That means that instead of interrupting the game with tons of...

In my opinion those people's opinions can simply be discounted. It's quite literally the game play loop for D&D. 1) The DM describes the environment(potentially trapped in the Feywild). 2) The players describe what they want to do(locate an archfey to get out). 3) The DM narrates the results...

I take exception to the word "whims." A whim suggests that the DM isn't going to bother even thinking the player ideas through to see if they have merit. He's just going to say yes or no on a whim. An overwhelming majority of DMs will consider the PC plan and gauge the chances of success, and...

I think that misses the mark a bit. The DM can railroad players via illusionism, and since it generally takes the players a long time to figure it out, they will be okay with the situation, even though they are still being railroaded. Also, even in a linear adventure, the PCs can get off the...

I agree. I was just pointing out that DM Force and DM Fiat are easy to abuse, sometimes even accidentally.

A lot of times it is. DM Force like DM fiat are critical and amazing tools when running D&D. Both, though, can easily be abused by a bad DM and result in railroading.

You should look at this thread, because again, almost everything "modern" has been around for 30+ years. https://www.enworld.org/threads/what-do-you-think-of-as-modern-ttrpg-mechanics.715583/

Force forces it on the players. A party who is careful can spot and avoid A and B, so those are not force. C forces the storm(not railroading), but does not force the avalanche as the party has a choice that affects whether or not that happens. For D it doesn't matter who created the table...

To me DM force is when the DM makes something happen. For example, if the group were going through a mountain pass and I thought that an avalanche would be cool and just caused it to happen, that would be me using DM force to start that ball rolling. If it were instead just the result of a...

Because force is where this best practices conversation stemmed from. @Umbran said, "Are you going to claim "zero/minimal GM force" is a "best practice"?" and "Folks ought to show work that minimizing GM force is really an overall best practice, rather than just assert it." which of course was...