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To continue with the cable analogy, I feel that their putting in levels that I would not reach until the next book is released (in March?) is like ordering the sports package in April so I can watch baseball but getting the NFL package bundled in. Sure it will be useful in five months but kind...

I am not sure I understand how paragon or epic tier rules, powers, or options would invalidate a player's character, especially with the ability to retain powers. I wouldn't see it as pigeonholing groups into a certain tier. My above post (posted after you wrote this) would expect groups to...

I would respond to your first question like this: 1. How many groups will play heroic levels over the next year. 2. How many groups will need rules for paragon levels over the next year. 3. How many groups will need rules for epic levels over the next year. I think the majority of play will...

If you have a good group I would recommend something else in addition to everything else that has been mentioned. Pick up a new game that is about 180 degrees away from what you normally play. If you play D&D then try Aces & Eights, Deadlands, Call of Cthulhu, or Dread. Pick something that is...

In my mind yes, a big difference. I would rather have one book for heroic tier than three books that have 1/3 devoted to heroic. To me it would allow more options for each tier of play to make it feel more complete. Waiting until 2010 to get a complete core heroic tier, really? And expect it to...

Absolutely, part of this discussion is not about whether the game is good or not, but about some of WOTC sales designs. I have played the game and like quite a few parts of it, though there are others that leave me wanting for better days. I have not bought the books but would play if offered...

I agree, there would be cries of incomplete either way. In my opinion it is a bad game design model. This way leads us straight down the path of rules bloat. The first eight classes are relatively balanced with each other. I don't think it likely that the next eight classes are going to be...

The 4th and 5th books would be PHB2 and MM2. If we are talking those books we would get 16 races and 16 classes so you have disputed my "same amount of options" argument. Fair enough. Back to my original point, why weren't those options included in PHB1 and those levels set to 10 or so instead...

You are absolutely right and why I hate using analogies. I was using that analogy to illustrate my issue with bundling stuff that I want with a whole mess that I don't. My point is that it would cost WOTC nothing to split their sales strategy by tiers instead of how they are doing it now. For...

Nice snark. Maybe I should have quoted my earlier post where I explained why I like BECMI, of which this and my previous post expounds upon. As for all those levels that you quoted, most of my games have gone to between 12-15 levels. Therefore I never bought BD&D's Immortals Set, 2e's...

This discussion reminds of why I hate my cable provider. I pay something like $55/month for basic digital cable, of which I watch about a dozen or so channels. I have to pay an additional $30/month for Digital Classic to get my Geek channels (SciFi, NatGeo, The Science Channel.) Included in that...

That then begs the question, why saddle us with an incomplete game that extends to high levels when not as many people pay to play those levels? I would surmise that half the book will go unused because of groups not playing to those high levels.

You know, just like the BXCMI that got me started in the game in the first place.

:eek: You segregate your dice. I tried that once. My d12s cried because they never got any action and they couldn't talk to any of the others. My first barbarian had less hit points than the rogue. He didn't last long. They are happier now that everyone is back in general population, but they...

Actions or exploits have power cards, as in "I use my implement to find a trap" or " I use my implement to trip the bad orc with pie as he runs past me" ;) If pressed I bet we could come up with 100 powers that use a 10' pole as an implement.

My only problem with this collectible power card business: is some dipshut tournament DM not going to let use a 10' pole unless I have it's card?

Here you go.

I was never into Pokemon, when I was younger but have found now that a few hours here and there are good for my RPG fix. Unfortunately, my most powerful only have 6 badges and are having difficulty in the snow, although I do have an extra Cranidos. ;)