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I legit wonder if mystic is more of a hint than we know at this time.

Thank you. [Office.gif] For everyone saying that the warlock is simple, they are forgetting it's the most complex class to build at level up. You have to decide if you are going gish or eb spam before you ever touch the class because that effects everything from your spells to invocations to...

It reminds me of the man who ate three eggs, a pat of butter, a cup of shredded cheese and some mushrooms, in order, and then declared he ate an omelette.

It's funny how, even in the most intense OS vs new era debates, you rarely see strong defense of race/class restrictions and level limits. There doesn't seem to be as much calls for "elves shouldn't be bards!" And "dwarves should only reach 12 level max" as I see for a lot of other aspects of...

It annoyed me to no end that there was no percentile intelligence, wisdom or dexterity for other classes to access. I guess it was supposed to give warrior types a bonus over non warriors, but if so it was locked behind "naturally" rolling an 18 for your strength. I had completely patched it out...

Percentile strength was in general a mistake, but it's one they could have fixed as you said. They just didn't because leaving bad ideas fester for the sake of backwards compatibility isn't something WotC invented in 2024...

Yeah that's the Revised (black border) PHB for 2e.

Three Players Handbook druids have them. (3e, 2e, 5e)

Gary decided to give druids weapons that resemble sickles (crescent blades) as the sickle was important to druid rituals (harvesting mistletoe for a spell component). The scimitar was the only crescent bladed sword in the PHB. And since it was the only sword druids could use, it was a popular...

Yes. Bards and druids both got moved to simple weapons only, unless you pick a feature or subclass that gives you all martial weapons. Druid lost scimitar (which was goofy but iconic) but bards lost a lot of one handed weapons like longsword, rapiers and whips which fit the bard look so well...

So did we ever figure out why these subclasses are "mystic" rather than "arcane"?

Correct. The 2e PHB had them all go to 25, and I don't remember if 1e had it in the PHB or UA.

Unfortunately, that's because Mr Gygax put them in the AD&D PHB and aside from an attempt to remove them in 2e (which resulted in three different attempts to restore them) they've been grandfathered in.

Basically. Every other class uses the "traditional" spellcasting system (in various full, half, and one-third progressions) while one single class breaks the rules. I will refrain from giving my further feelings on pact magic, but I can speak from experience that for less-experienced players...

My point was that the 3.5 warlock was a very simple arcane "caster" that didn't use spell slots that morphed in 5e into one of the most complex classes to build and level and is absolutely not new player friendly. It would have been nice if there was a simple subclass version of the warlock, but...

The original 3.5 warlock would be the best way to handle a simple caster. One specific spell/power (Eldritch blast) that you can modify and a few minor magical tricks to provide defense and support abilities. A magical ranged version of the sneak attack rogue. IMHO, 5e messed up that simplicity...

Like: * The general trend towards inclusive play. 2e was often defined by adding as many restrictions and handicaps as possible. The trend has moved towards options and not crippling PCs for playing outside the box. Dislike: * Some loss of unique D&Disms in the process. In the process of...